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    Struggling with Units

    Guys,

    Got a WP today to a infantryman.

    He started with 3 coy Inf Replacement Bn 472 early 1940.

    He goes East to the Ukraine with 1 Coy Landschutz Bn 560 1941 to early 43.

    Another change to Stallag 348 until Apr 43.

    Then I have an entry with ???.???. Staffel VIII.

    May sees him with 3./Sammelstab Gorlitz, I can't find this anywhere, Collection HQ, whats that all about?

    June is again unreadable but appears to have a double barrel name again ending in staffel VIII?

    July sees him with I assume a marine unit? 2.(M.)/ Gren.Ers.u.Ausb.Btl. (mot) 51

    Aug with ?????? ?all.z.b.V.Pztr.175

    He is then killed 7 Sep 43 with 3.Pz.-Gren.-Rgt.110.

    Any help gratefully recieved.

    Cheers!

    Jock

    #2
    A picture or two wouldn't be bad....maybe helpful.

    best
    Hank
    Unless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
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      #3
      Hank,

      I am a cheap skate and unable to post pics.

      Ignoring the fragments then any idea about the Sammelstab Goerlitz or the possible Marine unit, does (M) infact mean Marine within the unit abrevition which is luckily an ink stamp so able to read it clearly?

      Or am I off at a tangent?

      Normaly I can find it on Lexicon but no luck with this.

      Cheers

      Jock

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        #4
        sammelstab görlitz is just an adhoc staff receiving troops\recruits for further dispatch to another unit, in his case grenadier E.u.A btl. 51, which was also stationed in Görlitz and no it wasn't a KM unit, just a regular infantry training and replacement depot unit.
        Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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          #5
          Simon,

          Thanks for the steer, what does the M stand for in this context then?

          Thanks again.

          Jock

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            #6
            2.(M.)/ Gren.Ers.u.Ausb.Btl. (mot) 51 in this context would refer to the Company.
            I would say in this case it would be 2 (Marsch) Kompanie - 2nd (Transfer) Company.

            /Ian
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #7
              I think the "M" in this case didn't stand for anything, just a designation of the Kompanie as it was also attritbuted in the Feldpost numbers of this specific Bataillon: 1. Kompanie was 'L', 2. Kompanie 'M', 3. Kompanie 'P'. See http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...ErsBat51-R.htm

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                #8
                Ian, Tim,

                Thanks for the steer,

                Tim I am threaders with myself for not finding that in Lexicon.

                I was perhaps trying to read too much into it, it is stamped in exactly as I have transcribed it, it would be interesting to see if any of the other companies out there carried the Feldpost character in their unit titles?

                Thanks again.

                Jock

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                  #9
                  Its not the FP Nr. suffix.....I have a group to a guy who also served with this unit and he was with:

                  1.(Gen.)/ Gren.Ers.u.Ausb.Btl. (mot) 51

                  Which is 1 (Genesenden) Kompanie or 1st Convalescent Company.

                  /Ian
                  Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                  Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ian Jewison View Post
                    Its not the FP Nr. suffix.....I have a group to a guy who also served with this unit and he was with:
                    [I]1.(Gen.)/ Gren.Ers.u.Ausb.Btl. (mot) 51
                    Okay.. just a coincidence then!

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                      #11
                      Ian,

                      Thanks again.

                      Jock

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