Pokal Winner Stuka 77

[Schuasta]

Here i want to show you the Soldbuch of a Pokal Winner from the Stuka 77 !
I want to discuss here - later i want do do it in the E-Stand.

Its a early soldbuch - without a picture !

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[Ian Jewison]

I Can't find much on him....he doesn't appear on the German War Graves site as killed or missing:

Ully, Fritz. Obergefreiter. Flugzeugführer
23.11.1942 Ehrenpokal

Shot down 24.3.1942 near Charkow by flak flying Ju87 B-1 WNr. 5093 (2/St.G. 77):

Pilot: Obgefr. Fritz Ully. Wounded
Airgunner: Obgefr. Oskar Held. Wounded

A related entry can be seen on page 12-13 regarding flying accident and the wound badge awarded 27.3.1942.

Page 2 and 22 bears the signature of Oblt.u.Staka Georg Jakob RKT. Page 2 and 21 Oblt.u.Stafu. Günther Hitz RKT.

/Ian

[Rich G]

Hello,

If I am reading the list of awards correctly, no pilot badge is listed. Correct? Is that normal?

Looking at his rate of collecting FFS and ehrenpokal, I would have guessed he was on track for the DKiG. I wonder what happened to him?

Rich

[Ian Jewison]

Hi Rich,

It's not unusual for qualification awards not to be entered in Soldbuch and even Wehrpaß!
Sometimes it can be difficult to determine what role they performed when they all attend the same training schools Especially if its a Soldbuch you have and he passed his training prewar!

/Ian

[Ian Jewison]

Looking at his rate of collecting FFS and ehrenpokal, I would have guessed he was on track for the DKiG. I wonder what happened to him?

Rich

Remember the Spange was awarded for number of completed missions. Bravery awards could mirror the award of a Spange or be awarded for specific heroic deeds!

Spange in Bronze = 10
Spange in Silver = 60
Spanger in Gold = 110

EK II = 10-20
EK I = 60
Ehrenpokal = 110-150
DK = 200
RK = 400+

That is a rough guidline when they could have been awarded but not the rule....also as mentioned heroic deeds could change the bravery award and also what roll he took!

A fighter pilot might get an EK II for his first or second victory with the EK I for his fifth! Bombers and Stukas perhaps for sinking a ship he would get a higher award etc.

Also the number of missions and victories changed as the war progressed.....I have 2 groups for example to pilots from JG 54. Both had 53 victories....one is a RKT from 1942, the other an EK I winner from 1944!

Regards,
Ian

[Rich G]

Thanks Ian!

Could anyone speculate what happened after 1942? No death recorded on the war graves site, nothing marked in the soldbuch to suggest death.

If he was missing in action then I suppose that would explain no entry in the wargaves but then if it was MIA the soldbuch wouldn't exist because it would be with him.

Is it possible his wound invalided him out of service? I was thinking if that was the case the wound badge would be a higher grade.

Weird!!

Rich

[Ian Jewison]

Found him:

Nachname: Ully
Vorname: Friedrich
Dienstgrad: Obergefreiter
Geburtsdatum: 05.04.1912
Geburtsort: Neuenburg
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 16.12.1942
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Stepnaja bei Rostow

Friedrich Ully was not transferred to a military cemetery. According to our information, his grave is still at the following location: Stepnaja / Rostow am Don - Russia

/Ian

[Rich G]

Great work, Ian!

[Ian Jewison]

Additional info on Ully:

25.01.1942: 2./St.G.77. Emergency landing due to engine failure near Gomoljscha

Junkers Ju 87 B-1 WNr. 345. S2 + EK

Pilot: Obgefr. Ully, Fritz
Airgunner: Uffz. Winter

/Ian

[JeremyJ]

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Well done Ian!

Nice bit of research.

Jeremy