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    Wehrpass 2. Kompanie (Panther) Panzer Regt. 16

    Hi all,

    Recently I bought the Wehrpass of Fw. Hermann Gäbler. Gäbler served (9.4.40-10.5.42) in the Stabskomp I./Panzer Regt. 1, (2.3.43 – 15.7.44) 2./ Pz. Abt. 116, from 15.7.44 on in 2. Kompanie (Panther) Panzer Regt. 16 of 116th Panzer (Windhund) Division. There are no further units mentioned. The latest inscription dates from 1.11.1944 when he was promoted to Feldwebel. In fact this Wehrpass seems to have been
    discovered whit some others in a container during a dig; the Wehrpass shows some traces of damp.

    I have 2 questions. 1) does one of the members has any information on the town where the Wehrpasses were found or when they were lost/buried ?
    2) A friend has another Wehrpass from the same container. That soldier also belonged to the Pz. Regt. 1 before he was transferred to the Pz. Abt. 116. Is that a coincidence. Are members who the existence of other Wehrpasses from this treasure with combat entries for May – June 1940?

    Many thanks

    Peter
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    Hi Peter,

    There are quite a few of these wehrpasses in existence - I have three of them and I know at least another ten have been on the market with various dealers.
    Parts of Panzer Regiment 1 were used to form Pz. Abt. 116 in May 192. That is why nearly alot of these wehrpasses to members of 2./ Pz. Regt. 116 have previous service in Pz. Regt. 1.

    Cheers,
    Gary.

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      RE Pz. Regt. 16

      Hi Gary,

      Many thanks for your answer, and by the way, congratulations, your site is great!

      I did not know that there were so many Wehrpasses of Pz. Regt 16 for sale. I only knew of some 5-6, all offered by British dealers. Those soldiers who served in 1940 were in Pz. Regt 1. However it seems that there was at least one who was in Pz. Regt. 36 before being transferred to Pz. Abt. 116.

      If there were only a dozen of those Wehrpasses for sale, than it can not be the company archive that was discovered? Or should one suppose that the vast majority was completely wet and considered a total loss?

      Cheers

      Peter

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        Hi Peter,
        I know currently of 5 for sale but these are not so interesting as the better ones seem to have gone! I knew of about 40 or so which turned up and do know the dealer who supposadly got them from a French dealer!
        The ones I saw I would say 70% were Pz.Rgt. 1, as Gary mentions elements were used from this unit to form Pz.Abtg. 116. The others consisted of Pz.Rgt. 25, 35 and 36 what I could remember and some lesser known Abt. which served in the east.
        Most if not all had water damage or damp staining. Quite a few had Iron Cross 2nd Class (EK II) and Panzer Assault Badge 2nd Grade (Panzerkampfabzeichen II Stufe)...One that I saw had the 4th Grade for 75 engagements!!!!
        Depending where you see them is also dependant on the price...I have seen an EK I winner go for £90 but then an EK II winner go for £375!!!!!!!!!!

        Regards, Ian
        Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

        Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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