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    your opinions please guys, pow details on a cert, no date though, is the tag and slip ok? thank you
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    closer,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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      #3
      could anyone please cast an opinion good or bad

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        #4
        Hello

        At the first look, dogtag could be an original.

        Please post a better pic of frontside abd rear.


        Best regards, Fronti

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          #5
          sorry to bring this to the top, fronti asked for more pics, but my eye sight wont allow me at present sorry, any help would be greatly appreciated, does the font look ok for this type? many thanks for your patience

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            #6
            Hi Phil. "Unterscharfuhrer" is not a German Word.... If a German had typewritten it, it would be "Unterscharführer", or "Unterscharfuehrer".... Otherwise, the general mention "Götz von Berlichingen" makes no Sense....the "small unit is always written first, before any general Division Name. Concerning the "_", well, no comments....

            I have also a very bad Feeling concerning this Dog Tag. Tomorrow I will have a Look in the Dog-Tag lists I have made for Years concerning the GvB, most of all with official documents and in relations with the Veteran Association. I would have loved to give you better News.... but "that's Life".

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              #7
              any help is good help, thank you

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                #8
                Had to agree with 708.V.G.D..
                I don´t like the stamp on the "SS . Registrierung" sheet. Why it says "Landpolizei Niederbayern -unreadable- "and "Bezirksinspektion Neustadt a. d. W.[= Neustadt an der Weinstraße" when the paper states "Neustadt W.N. [= Neustadt an der Waldnaab]"? This last city is not part of Lower Bavaria, it lays in Upper Palatinate.

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                  #9
                  i agree the document is a poor fake, however i feel or felt the reg form and tag were ok, so looks like bad news?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by history1 View Post
                    Had to agree with 708.V.G.D..
                    I don´t like the stamp on the "SS . Registrierung" sheet. Why it says "Landpolizei Niederbayern -unreadable- "and "Bezirksinspektion Neustadt a. d. W.[= Neustadt an der Weinstraße" when the paper states "Neustadt W.N. [= Neustadt an der Waldnaab]"? This last city is not part of Lower Bavaria, it lays in Upper Palatinate.
                    could it of been passed there to stamp, clutching at straws?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frontalschaden View Post
                      Hello
                      At the first look, dogtag could be an original.
                      [...]
                      I´m not familiar with dog tags so please explain why the number "853" (the soldiers ID!) is missing in the upper part?
                      So no one is able to ID the corpse (e.g. when burried) or who do inform when used by the grave officer because he wouldn´t know who died.
                      Or is that a wrong conclusion?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PHILBROWN View Post
                        could it of been passed there to stamp, clutching at straws?
                        Only possible when the person/office who issued the "certificate" used the strange Neustadt W.N. as abbr. of Neustadt an der Weinstraße.
                        Worth a look:
                        The city on the paper:
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neustadt_an_der_Waldnaab

                        Neustadt an der Weinstraße (even not in Bavaria!):
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neustad...einstra%C3%9Fe

                        Take a look at the cities with the name "Neustadt" in Germany:
                        http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neustadt#Deutschland

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                          #13
                          I would like to see a data and a signature on the award certificate . Even the unit on it isn´t mentioned in a proper form.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by history1 View Post
                            I´m not familiar with dog tags so please explain why the number "853" (the soldiers ID!) is missing in the upper part?
                            So no one is able to ID the corpse (e.g. when burried) or who do inform when used by the grave officer because he wouldn´t know who died.
                            Or is that a wrong conclusion?

                            there is one ,its obscured by the cord

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