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    Your First Soldbuch or Wehrpaß

    I have been corresponding with fellow forum member Brandon Smith over the past week - he's just twenty-two. Brandon and I both live on the coast - just different ones - he's in Washington and I'm in New Jersey. Brandon told me that the very first Soldbuch he ever bought (oddly enough from a dealer in New Jersey), but it never arrived, something that is happening more and more often because of the lower hiring standards of the United States Postal Service. After corresponding with Brandon, I thought it would be interesting to start a thread about your first Soldbuch or Wehrpaß and tell how you became interested in German Ausweise (IDs).

    I have been collecting German items with my father for nearly thirty-seven years. At a show in Allentown, Pennsylvania, in 1975 or 1976, we met militaria dealers Joan and Dave Panettiere. Joan was German and Dave was an American (Dave has since passed away and I do not know Joan's status). Joan and Dave always offered some good items, primarily badges and insignia, that they brought back from Germany. My father and I always bought something small from them at every Allentown show. At one show, we noticed they were offering a Wehrpaß for $35. Joan explained to us what a Wehrpaß was at the time and from then on, I was hooked on the human side of the war and became an avid collector of Soldbücher and Wehrpässe.

    Today I introduce Gefreiter Franz Köhler, who was drafted into the Army after serving in the Reichsarbeitsdienst. He served with Infanterie Regiment 109 and Infanterie Regiment 228 and earned the Infantry Assault Badge and the Iron Cross 2nd Class before he was killed in action in Russia on 5 March 1942 at the age of twenty-eight. Köhler was posthumously awarded the Eastern Front Medal. Köhler's movie star looks and subtle smile have always been a reminder to me of how many young soldiers were cut down in the prime of their life.

    Barry
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              I bought my first soldbuch from you, Barry. It's been many, many years since I bought that SS soldbuch that had been owned by a funker in the Gotz von B. Pz.Gren.Div. I still have a xerox copy of most of it, and the original description ad from one of your soldbuch/wehrpass listings. The book cost me $175., and I purchased it from you in the early 90's. I kept it for a long time, as after that first deal with you, I collected about 50+ more SS books, both soldbuchs & wehrpass, + many Heer & LW books. I have since sold out my collection, but I still own one nice SS-TK soldbuch. I remember in the years that I collected soldbuchs/wehrpass that you helped me translate entries + feldpost numbers. I never lost a book in the postal system, but I can only imagine the disappointment in finding out that a book has been lost (stolen is a better word, and much more accurate) in the mail after anxiously awaiting it. I still collect original SS photos, so I still have a hobby related to the personal side of the war. I just want to thank you for all the rare & interesting books that I bought from you in the past, and from what I can see, you're still a great influence on the soldbuch/wehrpass hobby, as well as a very honest & helpful dealer/collector. Keep up the great work!!!

              Best regards,

              Tom

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                Thanks for sharing your story with me Tom and the kind words. Trust me, I wish I hadn't sold many of the IDs that I had in the past. I never really considered myself to be a dealer of Soldbücher and Wehrpässe, just too damn poor to keep them all. Like most collectors, we have to sell something to buy something we like even better. My Dad said it best years ago: "There's only one thing preventing us from having a better collection - money!"

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                  Great idea here... The personal/human side to soldbuchs is one of the main things that attracts me to them. It's not just a medal, or a helmet (not that I am not interested in those as well!), but something that is much more personal! Let's here some others.

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                    In 1976 I met a young man where I worked and he had heard I like "Nazi stuff." Well he had been in an exchange program from a prep school in the town and had a buch of stuff he had picked up when he was attending school in Melk Austria. The school was in the Abby of Melk, a Benedictine monestary school. During WWII it had been used as the local headquarters for the district Wehrbezirkkommando and later also a SS lazarette. One of his jobs was to clean out some old "monk cells" and he found one packed to the top with all kinds of paper items. These turned out to be Wehrstammbücher, Wehrpäße and the like. He had grabed and kept a bunch (because they had swastikas on) before the rest were destroyed. He didn't really know what he had and I didn't know much about them either. Well, the hunt for information was on and I've had the sickness ever since.
                    Jeff

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                      Good idea for a thread.

                      My story is much less spectacular. 20 years ago I was reading a gunmagazine which had ads from dealers in it. I ordered a catalog from Weitze
                      and as a result I ended up with my first soldbuch. I remember when I got it and I had that wow-this-thing-was-there-feeling! I could hardly believe that one
                      could just buy such fascinating things! This first soldbuch is with another WAF-member now but I kept most of the others which arrived later.

                      @Jungco: could you please stop posting horrible stories about rooms full of ID-documents which were later destroyed! It makes my heart bleed!

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                        I got my 1st WP and matching SB when I was 16 - and they will stay with me forever, as they are my granddads...
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                          Jochen1000,
                          Believe me, I'm still in shock. I made a trip back there many years later, with my friend and with permission from the Abbot, went through every old room we could find. No luck.
                          Jeff

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                            Great idea for a thread, Barry.

                            Here’s the very first ID I ever purchased, bought off the WAF estand from Mathias Beth about five years ago. It’s a very worn, blood-stained Soldbuch to a Unteroffizier and Stalingrad survivor who served (most likely as a SdKfz.251 crew member) in Panzergrenadier-Regiment 79 (16.Pz.Div).

                            Alfred Ohrmann won his PAB in bronze and EKII during the battle of Stalingrad, managed to avoid encirclement and capture, and after reforming in France in 1943 went on to fight in Italy where he was severely wounded by a gunshot in November 1943. I believe the first date on the Lazarett page -- 02.12.1944 -- should read 02.12.1943, as his wound badge was awarded on 24.January 1944 and the date 10.Nov.1943 has been written below the award entry.

                            Anyway, the original Lazarett pages were removed so it’s very difficult to determine exactly how/why Ohrmann managed to survive being encircled and captured at Stalingrad. On page 08 there is a lengthy list of winter gear he was issued, however it was turned in on 16.March 1942 so this was from the previous winter.

                            No wound badge was awarded until 1944 for the gunshot wound he received in Italy, so it's unlikely he was wounded at Stalingrad (although this cannot be ruled out completely). He wasn't given any leave... perhaps he fell ill and was evacuated, or simply just got lucky and was in the rear outside the ring when it was closed? The answer will more than likely forever remain a mystery.

                            Unfortunately, the original portrait photo was removed from the inside front cover and another added in its place post-war, but never the less it’s a very nice SB to a Stalingrad veteran with some very nice entries and awards related to one of the most famous battles of WWII.

                            Rob
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                              Unfortunately, the portrait photo was replaced post-war and is not original to the book.
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