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**bhholst** · 04-24-2002, 10:42 AM

Hello:
the first book that comes to my mind is:
M.Middlebrook and Ch. Everitt's "The Bomber Command War Diaries, An Operational Reference Book 1939-1945" . My copy is a 1990 Penguin Edition. First published 1985 by Viking. M. Middlebrook has written several books about the airwar, the ones I have read are excellent incl. "The Battle for Hamburg".
Apparently there are still different opinions as to which airforce caused the most damage to German industry.
Having lived in the area covered by Luftgau XI and at school in Bremen I was evacuated with my school to the countryside because of the airraids. There is a wealth of books on this subject.
Bernhard H. Holst

**Stijn David** · 04-26-2002, 09:24 AM

thanks

Hello,

Thanks Bernhard for the reply and the help, i wil try to locate these books and see what i can find out.

I have found already the following on the net regarding the air attack on Hamburg on the date of 24.07.1943 .

Tag
Monat
Jahr
Uhrzeit
Angriffe auf Hamburg

24.
07.
1943
12:04
Luftgefahr

12:18
Öffentliche Luftwarnung

12:46
Luftgefahr vorbei und Entwarnung

21:15
Luftgefahr

21:23
Öffentliche Luftwarnung

21:30
Luftgefahr vorbei und Entwarnung

Now up for some more research , this is the real fun

of this hobby.

Greetings,

**bhholst** · 04-26-2002, 12:26 PM

Hello :
In addition to the books mentioned in my previous post (correct title of one is: " The Battle of Hamburg"not "for") you may want to check books by Alfred Price, I have "Target Berlin Mission 250: 6 March 1944" with coauthor Jeffrey L. Ethell.
Other books by M. Middlebrook : The Schweinfurt-Regensburg Mission, The Nuremberg Raid, The Peenemuende Raid. All well written. In German language: by W. Girbig: Im Anflug auf die Reichshauptstadt. There are many other books out there.
Bernhard H. Holst

**Rick Research** · 04-26-2002, 12:43 PM

Stijn-- waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the Documents Forum I posted on civilian "mentioned in dispatches" air raid citations: one to a Reichsbank inspector who saved the Bank building during the first Hamburg Fire Storm raid, and the other to a senior civils ervant in Berlin whose merit took place in the raid that led to the only public demonstration against Jewish deportations during the war. Neither man was "Luftschutz," but they were citations with text, and as nice as the Honor Plaque in your other posting for rare and unusual.

These threads are both gone now, if I can find my own scans again, if you want I'll repost them in Documents.

**bhholst** · 04-26-2002, 03:18 PM

Hello Stijn and Rick L.
Thanks to Rick for the other postings of docs.
The question of bestowal of wound badges to civiilians came up previously and may not have had a thorough explanation, if I recall correctly. By reviewing K.-G. Klietmamnn's book about German decorations he lists that under date of 11.Mar. 1943 and retroactively civilians are now eligible for wound badges awards for wounds etc suffered during air-raids. The same prerequisites as military personnel for wounds/injuries suffered in the actual theatres of war would prevail.
Bernhard H. Holst

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