Lets see your Panzer crew member Soldbuchs

[Panzer Rob]

Somewhere in 1943 he started his officer training.
After that he went to Panzer-Lehrgänge Oldebroek (Netherlands).
And after that he went to 4. Panzerjäger-Sturmgeschutz-Lehr-Kompanie at Panzertruppen-schule Bergen (Germany).



I´ll attach some pictures:

None of those entries would confirm beyond doubt that he served/saw combat as a vehicle commander/crew member, though.


Rob

[Admiraal]

None of those entries would confirm that he served/saw combat as a vehicle commander/crew member, though.


Rob

Thats true, i might have said it not good enought.. my English aint the best
I meant that he saw combat after his officer and Sturmgeschütz training.
He was a trained Sturmgeschütz officer.
If the combat that he saw was as infanterie soldier or in a stug is unknown to me.
I hope you understand

[Edward]

None of those entries would confirm beyond doubt that he served/saw combat as a vehicle commander/crew member, though.


Rob

Could you please show page 3? Agree with Rob that there is nothing from the scans so far which places him with a front Stug unit, or Kampfgruppe. From the pistol note given by the Armaments Command of XI Armee Korps on page 8b-8c places him in Hannover on 7 September, 1944.

[Admiraal]

On 22 – 01 – 1945 he received a Pistole 35(p), flashlight and a binoculair.
Which was removed later on.
On 27 - 03 - 1945 he received a new Binoculair and flashlight.

[Admiraal]

Could you please show page 3? Agree with Rob that there is nothing from the scans so far which places him with a front Stug unit, or Kampfgruppe. From the pistol note given by the Armaments Command of XI Armee Korps on page 8b-8c places him in Hannover on 7 September, 1944.

I cannot see anything that tells me in what unit he was on the end of the war.
I don´t know.

[Edward]

He did receive a VwA Schwarz in April 1945, but with whom is not known. As you are probably aware there are multiple instances of late-war Wehrkries school units in Germany being thrown into local defense commands.

[Admiraal]

He did receive a VwA Schwarz in April 1945, but with whom is not known. As you are probably aware there are multiple instances of late-war school units being placed into local defense commands.

Yep.
Well, they made multiple kampfgruppen/units from Panzer schule Bergen.
He *could* have been in one, but i probably never know for sure.

To name a few:
Panzer-jagd-brigade Bergen
Kampfgruppe Grosan
Kampfgruppe Schulze

[Edward]

Yep.
Well, they made multiple kampfgruppen/units from Panzer schule Bergen.
He *could* have been in one, but i probably never know for sure.

To name a few:
Panzer-jagd-brigade Bergen
Kampfgruppe Grosan
Kampfgruppe Schulze

His last field unit is with 4 Komp of the school. It maybe worth checking to find out which unit 4 Komp went too. It could be very well be one of those you listed.

[Panzer Rob]

Thought I'd bump this back up to the top

Rob

[Panzer Rob]

Wanted to bump this one up again....

[Panzer Rob]

[HouweTrouwe]

For this beautiful thread. My first and currently only Panzer-Abteilung 51 (Panther) Wehrpaß.

This Wehrpaß belonged to Obergefreiter Werner Hadrboletz who was killed at the young age of 18, only after 3 days of combat, in 1943. His courage and fanatism eventually took his, most precious belonging, his own life. He fought in the same Panther as his Kompaniechef and friend, Oberleutnant Karcher, who is still missing to this date on the Russian front. Werner's and probably Karcher's life ended on 7.7.1943 after their Panther came under fire of two Sovjet PAK's. One of the hits which the Panther took ended viciously Werner's life. Oblt. u. KpChef. Karcher climb out of the tank and nothing has been heared since.

First ID-Photo is Oblt. Karcher, Second ID-Photo is Obgfr. Hadrboletz.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Vyi7K9lKw317kbCUcRYf0g?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_kHrkAIeGckg/TOluddZ68TI/AAAAAAAABIQ/zzc2Rtrqh7I/s800/000671.jpg" height="490" width="684" /></a>

[SJP]

Hi HT , Thats very nice & rare.Thanks for posting.
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Cheers Steve

[Panzer Rob]

Very nice Panzer-Regiment 39 / Panzer-Abteilung 51 "Kursk KIA" Panther crew Wehrpass. This man was killed just two days into Kursk - the Panther's baptism of fire - not to mention he served in one of only two units (the other being Panzer-Abteilung 52) equipped with the Panther at Kursk. He was one of the very first Panzermanner to see combat in a Panther.

The Panther/Kursk connection aside, this WP must be very special to you considering you collect Panzer-Regiment 33 and Pz.Abt.51 was formed from II./Panzer-Regiment 33.


Thanks for sharing it with us.

Rob

[Panzer Rob]

Anyone out there with a Jagdtiger crew Soldbuch or Werhpass? And not just an ID to some guy who served in a admin or supply role in a unit equipped with Jagdtigers, but a soldier who actually crewed a Jagdtiger.....

How about a Panzer-Pionier SB with a portrait photo inside the front cover showing the soldier wearing a black wrap with black and white twisted piping around the collar tabs???

Or how about some Sturmpanzer IV crew IDs?

Rob