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    sonderfuhrer wehrpass question

    I recently bought a wehrpass of ernst stadele.

    He started out in 18 december 1937 wehrbezirkkommando konstanz.
    He was born on 5 june 1898
    So he was already 39 when he got back in.

    He was commisioned as wehrpflichtige d.B. ?? (reservetroops i think)
    He did the oath (vereidigt am 29-8-1939)

    He fought from 1916 till 1919 at the western front.
    after that he was in
    nachrichtenabteilung 645 (26-8-1939 till 5-1-1940)
    6 e kompagnie nachrichtenersatz abteilung 5 from 6-1-1940 till 8-1-1940

    then he was released (entlassen gemass ???? not readable).

    in 1941 we was called up again
    he did service from 15-8-1941 till 16-9-1942
    then we was again released.
    His last serving unit was

    3 e kompagnie WWI.Ersatz Abteilung 4 What is that ??????

    His promotions 5-1-1940 gefreiter
    11-8-1941 sonderfuhrer (G)
    beleihung mit wirkung von 15-9-1942 aufgehoben


    Now my question what did a sonderfuhrer (G) do ??
    What were his daily tasks ??
    Who can tell me more about his units ?
    nachrichten is signals that i now but otherwise i don`t know much about his units.

    #2
    A couple of Questions:

    1. Which branch of service?
    2. Can we see some photos?
    3. What career level? He could have either been low or medium career level.

    A sonderfuhrer G was held to the equivalent of a Feldwebel, but of course, he had no command authority. His daily activities would have been hands on work of his particular specialty(Mechanic, engineer, remount, saddler, and etc).

    In this particular case, I would say that he was most likely an electronics specialist(based upon his past experience), who worked on and maintained the communications equipment.

    Paul
    Last edited by PaulR; 03-31-2009, 08:45 AM.

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      #3
      thanks for the info so far.

      I can not upload fotos as i am not a member (like the e stand thing).

      Branch of service is heer.
      In ww1 he was also in the nachrichten (signals), he was a fernsprecher back than.
      He served during ww1 in fernsprech ersatz kompagnie nachrichten ersatz abteilung 14.

      He was only thougt in the 98k karabiner.

      He was released out of service because of health issues from what i can make up.

      So my gues is his specialty was technical in the nachrichten (signals) ?

      His schooling says schlosser (mechanic)
      ausgeubter werkmeister (chief of a workingplace,learningmaster ?).

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        #4
        Going off of what I can see in your reply, it seems like he most likely repaired radio equipment. I highly doubt that he was in charge of personnel at all.

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          #5
          I Have the same feeling as you stated.
          I`m finished translating, this is what i can read and translate it is in Dutch some words i let it stay in German.

          ERNST STADELE
          Geboren : 5-6-1898
          Geboren te : ?
          Provincie : Konstanz
          Religie : Katholiek
          Beroep : Monteur
          Geleerd als : Werkmeester
          Rijbewijs : I en III
          Bloedgroep : A
          Eed van trouw afgelegd : 29-8-1939
          Overgeheveld naar Landwehr I per 4-8-1937
          Geoefend met Karabiner 98 K

          Bevorderingen : 5-1-1940 Gefreiter
          11-8-1941 Sonderfuhrer (G)
          Bevordering per 15-9-1942 opgeheven.

          Medailles : IJzeren kruis 2 e klasse 19-12-1917
          Zilveren verdienstkruis Baden 4-2-1918

          Eenheden : 21-11-1916 tot 8-3-1917 Nachrichten Ersatz Abteilung 14
          9- 3-1917 tot 2-10-1918 … Fernsprech Abteilung 220 21 e Armeekorps
          2-10-1918 tot 29- 1-1919 Lazarett wegen krankheit
          30- 1-1919 tot 3- 2-1919 Fernsprech Ersatz Kompagnie Nachrichten
          Ersatzabteilung 14

          entlassen
          26- 8-1939 tot 5- 1-1940 3 e Kompagnie Nachrichten Abteilung 645
          ( Abwehrbereitschaft an dem Oberrheinfront
          Einsatz beid er Besatzungsgruppe in Polen )
          6- 1-1940 tot 8- 1-1940 6 e kompagnie Nachrichten Ersatzabteilung 5
          entlassen
          15- 8-1941 tot 16- 8-1941 W.Wi Stab z.b.v. Bei Ru in 3
          17- 8-1941 tot 14- 9-1942 Wi in Sud
          15- 9-1942 tot 16- 9-1942 3 e Kompagnie W Wi. Ersatz Abteilung 4
          entlassen wegens gezondheid


          Who can tell me what his last three units were ?
          I don`t know what W.wi stands for ??

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            #6
            The last three units could be " Wehr Wirtschafts Ersatz Abteilung"

            Gerdan

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              #7
              Hi Gerdan ,

              Thanks for your reply.
              This is the units that are testing the new equipment am i translating this correctly ?

              That would be a rare unit i think ?
              Never seen the stamp before ( don`t think somebody will fake this unit as supposed to kriegsberichter or elite units).

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                #8
                There is nothing suspicious about this book as far as I am concerned.

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                  #9
                  The Wehr Wirtschafts units had to do with the procurement of weapons and equipment for the army,
                  with the procurement of workers, raw material and means of transport
                  and
                  they examined the economic resources in the occupied countries.

                  Gerdan

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