Translating a KM wherpass

[nicolas75]

Hello

I have a 2nd model Km wherpass

1 - does someone is able to translate the hand marks ? I just saw that he went to the Volksschule and someone told me he’s able to swim. (The first tree letters in the upper outer is sch or sdh)

2 - Is it possible that a Kriegsmarine men drafted 1940 for an office job in late 1940 to had no promotions till the end of the war ? he has a very low studies level and could be a basic clerck ...

3- There is no markings for his end of service , there is also no marks concerning the uniforms sizes, awards and promotions.

As a clerck in a quiet place in a HQ i guess they were not in a rush but the German amry is not known to be lazy ...

SO, did you ever went trough such way imcomplete or unfilled wherpass

Thanks

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[Jonathan M]

Not uncommon for Wp's to have sections unfilled or incomplete. There could many reasons for that.

Jonathan

[Gerdan]

page 4 # 11 Kenntnisse in Fremdsprachen - knowledge in foreign languages: if this guy did not speak any foreign language normally position 11 should be free.

Gerdan

[Rotti]

Section 12 is one of these damn hieroglyphic handwritings. It says sthg. with an "Ausbildung" which mesans some training on whatever. Coud be "Technikerausbildung " ,a special training for a technical job.
This dude was a mercantilistic clerk, but practised a job in judiciary service as a civilian.
This could have been almost everything from carrying around documents in a court to working in a prison.

[Gerdan]

Section 12 means:
Sanitätsausbildung (D.R.K.) - Deutsches Rotes Kreuz - German Red Cross (they gave him the special paramedic training).

Freischwimmer - he is awarded a badge that testifies that he could swim 15 minutes.

Gerdan

[nicolas75]

thanks

Congrats, you're very skilled !

- Did you reach to read his nationality ? which word could it be ?

- Any idea of his parents jobs ?

- What is the city just after Frankurt ? page 3 field 4

- Seems he's envangelic lutherian ?

- His asn is N5420/40 ES (40 is for his enlistment year but what about the ES ??)

Thanks for your help

[Gerdan]

Try to help you:

1) nationality : Deutsch(es) Reich
2) parents job: only his fathers job is mentioned: "Kassenbote" - bank messenger
3) after Frankfurt a / Main it is Wiesbaden
4) religion: evgl. = evangelisch
5) Wehrnummer: 04/20/40/2 - 04 - he is born 1904 / 20 / 40 he has been examined 1940

Gerdan

[nicolas75]

-- N5420/40 ES -- is the soldier Stammrollnummer (not his Wehrnummer) i guess the ES means somehting special

Next to the mother name is a word i can read, you said "only his fathers job is mentioned" did you mean his mother jog is "unknown "?

someone told me the name is Schuhmacher, do you confirm ?

Thanks all

[Gerdan]

1) On top of page 1 is written "Wehrnummer" - not Stammrollnummer.

2) His mother's professon is n o t given. It is her maiden name - Mädchenname - "Wahn", Her first name is Katharina.

3) Schuhmacher is the family name of all the members of his family (the soldier, his father and also his mother). It is also a professon (shoemaker) but here it is a family name.

4) His father died 1908 and his mother 1934.

Gerdan

[nicolas75]

Thanks Gerdan for your quick and sharp answers

Thanks to your informations i've been able to write down on a paper the Wp full German words understanding and its translation

I have further in this Wp his stammrollnummer and it's given as being "N5420/40 ES" as use to be the KM Erkennungsmarke stamps

I was wondering myself what ES could mean ... ?

[nicolas75]

last question ... the past family anme of the mother ?

Thanks

[Gerdan]

I read "Wahn" as maiden name of his mother.

Gerdan