SS-Fallschirmjäger-BTL 500 dog-tag

[musketeer]

Hello,
this alloy ground dug dog tag is for sale..

But what do you think about this one?

Could it be a good One?

[musketeer]

backside

so pls.. any opinions are welcome

[musketeer]

no comments or opinions?

is this a good or bad sign?

[sch.08/15]

Beautiful brand! find it ok!

[sch.08/15]

where was it found?

[Frontalschaden]

Hello

Make a comparison with your own grounddug dogtags...

It is a Fake !


Best regards, Fronti

[sch.08/15]

Why are they so sure! have a real once held in the hand?

[Frontalschaden]

Why are they so sure! have a real once held in the hand?

No, but a SS FschJgBtl 600 dogtag.

I know musketeer, it is a good friend of mine and I know the Seller of this dogtag.

I will only say: Look at the letters !!!!!


Best regards, Fronti

[sch.08/15]

500 is not 600? or?

if they have a 500s have never seen before, how can they say fake?
the seller is not serious?

[Frontalschaden]

500 is not 600? or?

if they have a 500s have never seen before, how can they say fake?
the seller is not serious?

Look at the letters !!!!! You can see it that this one was aged !!!


Best regards, Fronti

[sch.08/15]

You have not answered my question!


Therefore, I assume that they are no comparable brand of the 500 have! I was right?

In their view comes from the belly out?

korission, goes through the letters, but that's ok!

For me, the brand is good!

unless the seller is not ok !?

[Gaspare]

,,,how about there has been interviews with the surviving members of this unit [500 & 600] that say no such tag was ever made or issued.

I wouldn't believe any of either the 500 or 600. It is only because of the respect of a few members here that I believe their accounts of as good one somehow,,,all I'm saying is that most say 'not for me'...

There are 'artists' out there that have been making bogus tags for close to 20 years now,,I guess you can call them masters. They have the proper stamps,,and experts in ageing. And, for the most part made more tags than any German quarter master of WW2.... Let the buyer beware when it comes to tags especially SS or 'elite' units..

[mr.dogtag]

Gaspare,
there definitely were tags custom made for both 500 and 600.
Actually I have both of them.there are fieldpost coded tags for 500 ( I have found myself one at POW camp close to Oder River). 600 italic type were recovered in many examples in Mecklemburg/Vorpomern area. There used to be a disscussion on the Milweb forum some time ago. These tags are also ok. A good friend of mine found one last year close to Zehden.
However most of the tags recovered in Schwedt- Zehden bridgehead are coming from all sorts of SS and non-SS units. This was the only real 600 tag that was ever recovered in that area. There were also some Jagdverbande Mitte fieldpost coded tags recovered.
I think the reason why 500/600 vets do not know anything about custom made tags is that there have been rather a big rotation of soldiers from different units and most of them kept old tags. However every unit of German army was obliged to keep some replacement tags - usually with the name of the unit to replace lost tags ( Ersatzmarken) or issue them to feldrekruten.

Personally I would not buy the tag from this post. I also know the seller and I know he is an honest person. But honest people often buy stuff from other honest people who buy them from dishonest people...
All best
Al

[Gaspare]

So sorry, I should have been more specific,,, I wouldn't believe a tag with runes on it no matter who found it sorry. .. "fieldpost coded tags" , sure,,no problems............

You bring up something many don't know. You kept the tag you started with. No matter where you were transferred to!.

Now, if you lost it you got a new one to your current unit.. It was against regulations to lose your tag. I know many were lost but considering the men of that unit I've seen where they said they didn't wear tags on their missions,,so, where would they be lost?
Yes, its possible,,coded etc.. Some believe, some don't thats all..

[mr.dogtag]

Gaspare,
Actually it's not true that they were ordered to remove the tags during the action.
My friend searching for MIA soldiers in Schwedt-Zehden bridgehead found probably 40 Remainings of Skorzenny's people and most of them had the tags ( including one italic 600 tag).
It was against regulations to loose the tag - ok - but according to statistics over 10% (!) tags were lost by their owners and replacement tags were issued. Actually the regulations said that the soldiers shall wear always the tags. But if somebody had lost the tag he was issued a duplikat or erzatzmarke ( sometimes one of these words were even stamped on reverse of the tag). Every unit kept some of these just in case ( they are often being recovered on places where the unit surrendered - unissued tags with consecutive numbers).
All best
Al
ps. BTW Gaspare - aren't you planning any trip to my part of the world?