Panzer soldbuch

I had alot of interest and was given quite a bit of info on a soldbuch I posted on the forum yesterday, so thought I'd show this one too.

[peter u]

Hi,

A nice "westfeldzug" panzer veteran

Cheers,
Peter

[Alex Stefanut]

Super Panzer Soldbuch, Peter was right to the point,

Cheers,

Al

[Panzer Rob]

A beautiful, original (but my guess "Zweitschrift") Soldbuch to a Panzer crewmember who was awarded his PAB in silver for armored combat in Operation "Fall Gelb" - a very nice Soldbuch indeed

Rob

[Daniele C]

Great looking Book!!A normandy veteran too!
I agree with Rob,it could be a second issue looking at the awards pages!

[peter u]

Hello,

It is a 1942 reissue.
Not the worst "Zweitschrift" I have seen.
First issues are always the best imo but from fighting units one sometimes has to accept that these soldiers lost there soldbuch and had to be issued with a new example.
(Personally I don't like those late 1944 or 1945 "Zweitschrift" soldbucher but that is ofcourse a personal opinion/personal taste.)

Cheers,
Peter

[Giel VW]

A beautiful, original (but my guess "Zweitschrift") Soldbuch to a Panzer crewmember who was awarded his PAB in silver for armored combat in Operation "Fall Gelb" - a very nice Soldbuch indeed

Rob

Where can you see the PAB entry, I can't find it

[MisterX]

Here is it

- Panzerkampfwagenabzeichen -

[Eric JB]

Where can you see the PAB entry, I can't find it

Giel, it is the old version of that badge : "Panzerkampfwagenabzeichen" , and in those early days there only was the Silver one.

yours friendly

Eric-Jan

[Eric JB]

.....typing my reply when Misterx was answering ...............

[Giel VW]

Aha, indeed an early entry then. I thought it was a kraftfahrerabzeichen

Very nice book, I love it!

[JUNGCO]

Nice book!
Jeff

[Don D.]

As a side note I see he was stationed in Boeblingen. The Kaserne is now called Panzer Kaserne and is home to the 1st BN, 10th Special Forces Group. The old motorpool/tank sheds were still there the last time I visited in 1998.

[Panzer Rob]

Just bringing this one back up after making some observations...

If you look at page 1, it states that his Erkennungsmarke was issued through 2./Panzer-Regiment 31 (5.Pz.Div). He then went on to serve in 11./Panzer-Regiment 18, 18.Pz.Div (Soldbuch was issued by III./Pz.Rgt.18, FPN 19034) then Panzerkampfwagen Reserve Sagan and finally 2./Pz.Abt.503 (training and replacement unit Panzer-Ersatz-Abteilung 500.)

What I find interesting is that there is no 's' (schwere) preceding 'Pz.Abt.503' - could it be that perhaps this guy served as one of the Panzer III crewmembers in s.Pz.Abt.503? The 503 fielded Panzer III's from its formation in 1942 up until July of 1943, so is it possible that the lack of a 's' means he crewed a Pz.III? I've seen both versions - with and without the 's' for many of the s.Pz.Abt. 'Tiger' units and would really like to know why we find both versions.

Also, if you examine the scan of the photo, it appears that the stamp reads "Panzer-Ersatz- und Ausbildungs-Abteilung 204"

What is the connection to the other units? Pz.E.u.A.A.204 was the training and replacement unit for Panzer-Regiment 204, Panzer-Abteilung 12, 127 and 215 - none of which this guy served with (at least from what we can see).

Any thoughts?
Rob

[Panzer Rob]

Anyone?


Rob