Branderburg ok?

[Daniele C]

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Heer/photos/H54454.html

what u think?

cheers

Daniele

[Larry deZeng]

As you know, I'm no expert on these documents, but the ink color (light blue) and the lettering style sure don't look like something done by a European 60+ years ago. It looks more like modern lettering done recently by a North American with neat penmanship. The ink still has a shine and a certain liveliness to it, but most especially, it's the shape of the letters. Have you ever seen lettering like that in a SB or WP? I haven't. Also, the price seems outrageous for an item of questionable authenticity or a document that has been altered by postwar additions.

--Larry

[Daniele C]

Excactly my thought Larry,thanks for confirmin my doubts.
Cheers

Daniele

[landsknechte]

Rather strange that there is the zip code equivalent (not sure what the formal name is, the 10 in the circle) next to the Wehrmeldeamt entry on page 4. Also, and perhaps most damning IMHO is that first two digits in the Wehrnummer are 28. That indicates someone who was born in 1928. He would have been no more than 17 years old in 1945. (Wasn't the regiment all but annihilated in late 1944??)

[Larry deZeng]

Interestingly, there is no mention of a Pz.Gren.Rgt. Brandenburg or a Pz.Gren.Ers.Btl. Brandenburg in either Tessin or Lexikon der Wehrmacht. There was a Pz.Gren.Div. Brandenburg, but it's two regiments were called Jäger-Rgts. Brandenburg. But there was a connection between Pz.Gren.Div. Brandenburg and Großdeutschland and these were joined together in an attempt to set up a Panzerkorps. This was all very late war stuff in 1945 and much of it existed more on paper than in reality. The more we look into this document the more it appears to be a phony.

--Larry

[Simon O.]

"Gesch. Ausb. Kp./Pz. Gren. Ausb. Rgt. Brandenburg", (Assault Gun Training Company/Panzer Grenadier Training Regiment

This part of the description is incorrect. Gesch. is simply Geschütze or gun, for example Infanterie Geschütze . No connection to assault guns or sturmgeschütze.

[mr.dogtag]

I don't like the dog tag part either. I have seen many Brandenburger tags but all of them coded in specific way. Never with unit name on them.
Regards
Al

[Daniele C]

I think this was a mint Unissued Soldbuch ruined...

[Gary T]

The individual things picked out in this soldbuch don't appear to raise alarms although it's bzizzre they don't show the photo or any other pages.

• the dogtag number is fine...we're not talking about zbv 800 personnel but a normal Heer soldier
• age is not unusual for 1945, he could well have volunteered for example:

http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche...437869EE858C60
http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche...D3B6E2C8F4824A

• I have seen writing like this in many genuine books
• Lexikon-der-Wehrmacht gets all it's info from Tessin and Tessin isn't complete especially late war
• There was a Ersatz-Brigade Brandenburg formed in March 1945. It would certainly have had a Panzergrenadier component.

However, as Larry said it is massively overpriced for an original. There's loads of late war Brandenburg replacement stuff around.

[F L Clemens]

I agree with Gary. Good Soldbuch (as afr as the pictured pages go), way overpriced because the seller is probably playing on the Brandenburger theme at a time when the real Brandenburgers had moved to the Jagdverbaende under SS control and the Brandenburg division was mostly just another low quality late-war grunt unit.