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[Pluskat]

Hello all,
Somebody can help me finish deciphering this abbreviations?

" STM. K. IG. E. BTL 28 " .

Stamm Kompanie ????? ersatz bataillon 28

Thanks

[Larry deZeng]

"I.G." was the abbreviation for Infanterie-Geschütz. Many or most of the Inf.Ers.Btle. had a Kompanie that provided replacement personnel trained in the use of these weapons.

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...ErsBat28-R.htm



--Larry

[Frontalschaden]

Hello

Infanterie Geschütz Ersatz Kompanien exists only in the Infanterie Ersatz Regimenter, but not in the Ersatz Bataillone.


@ nibelungen

Are you sure that your dogtag is a good original ?

de facto your inscript is Stammkompanie / Infanteriegeschütz Ersatz Bataillon 28.

There never exists an Infanteriegeschütz Ersatz Bataillon 28 in the Wehrmacht, only an Infanterie Ersatz Bataillon 28



Best regards, Fronti

[christof]

I agree with Fronti, but may be it is not "STM. K. IG. E. BTL 28 " but "STM. K. JG. E. BTL 28" = Stamm Kp./Jäger-Ersatz-Btl. 28. Normaly the abreviation for Jäger is "Jäg." or "J." but "JG." is right too. And the Inf. Ers. BTL 28 become the Jäg. rsE. BTL 28 on october 1942.

[Frontalschaden]

I agree with Fronti, but may be it is not "STM. K. IG. E. BTL 28 " but "STM. K. JG. E. BTL 28" = Stamm Kp./Jäger-Ersatz-Btl. 28. Normaly the abreviation for Jäger is "Jäg." or "J." but "JG." is right too. And the Inf. Ers. BTL 28 become the Jäg. rsE. BTL 28 on october 1942.

Thats it !!!!

I agree with you christof.

Jäger Ersatz Bataillon 28 sounds good.

Best regards, Fronti

[Larry deZeng]

Thanks for correcting my error. So IG-Ers.Kpn. were only at Regimental level. I think they (IG-Kpn. u. IG-Ers.Kpn.) may have gone out of existence before the end of the war anyway, didn't they? Or the name was changed to something else?

--Larry

[Larry deZeng]

Postscript: by 1944 the old Infanterie-Geschütz-Kp. had for the most part become a schwere Kompanie equipped with 4-to-6 mortars and 4-to-8 heavy machine guns. Depending on the type of division (Infanterie-, Jäger-, Festungs-, Gebirgs-, etc., etc.), some of these IG- or schwere Kpn. only had schwere Maschinegewehre and no mortars. I have a number of Kriegsgliederungen for various divisions from 1943 and 1944, and this is clearly shown. What I don't know is when the IG-Kp. dropped the 7.5 cm le. I.G. 18 in favor of just mortars and heavy machine guns. Anyone know?

--Larry

[Frontalschaden]

Hello

The heavy coy with sMG´s and mortars is at bataillon level, the Infanterie Geschütz coy is at regimental level. The heavy coy of the bataillon (4th, 8th and 12th coy of the regiment) has 12 sMG´s (heavy machineguns - MG 42 with Lafette) and 6 sGrW (heavy mortars - 12 cm)

The 13. Kompanie (Infanterie Geschütz Coy of the Infanterie Regiment has 6 light und 2 heavy Infanteriegeschütze. At the end of the war some IG coys were equipted with mortars and not with IG`s.

But both type of coys (Heavy coy and Infanterie Geschütz coy) were different type of coys. In a normal Infanterie Regiment you have only one Infanterie Geschütz coy, but 3 heavy coys with sMG´s and mortars.

Best regards, Fronti

[Larry deZeng]

Thanks, Fronti. In looking at 7 or 8 of the Divisions-Gliederungen from October 1944, I noticed only one or two of the Regiments-Inf.Gesch.Kpn. appeared to still have IGs. The rest had various mixtures of mortars, s.MGs and various anti-tank weapons, including the Panzerschreck. I think the 7.5 cm le. I.G. 18 was a relative rarity by that time.

--Larry

[Frontalschaden]

Hello

Normally the Panzerschreck was in the 14th coy the Regiment, the Tankhunter, later Tankdestroyer coy.

Here is an example of a normal Infanterie Regiment

Regimental staff with a staff platoon

Regimental baggage (train)

Signal platoon

Trooper, later bicycle platoon

engineer platoon


I. Bataillon
1st rifle coy
2nd rifle coy
3rd rifle coy
4th heavy coy (sMG´s and mortars)

II. Bataillon
5th rifle coy
6th rifle coy
7th rifle coy
8th heavy coy (sMG´s and mortars)

III. Bataillon
9th rifle coy
10th rifle coy
11th rifle coy
12th heavy coy (sMG´s and mortars)

13th Infanterie Geschütz coy

14th Tankhunter / Tankdestroyer coy

Regimental music (after 05/1944 disestablished)

light infantry column








Best regards, Fronti

[Larry deZeng]

Yes, normally 14. Panzer-Jäger-Kp. would have all of the heavier anti-tank weapons, but in these Gliederungen I examined both 13. IG-Kp. and 14. Pz.Jg.Kp. seem to have them. Of course this was very late in the war and all of these 7 or 8 divisions were in the Balkans.

--Larry

[Pluskat]

photo erkennungsmarke in question

Hello all,
The exact abbreviation:

" STM. K. IG. E. BTL 28"
6327

Reverse A/B

Thanks.

[Pluskat]

Some another opinion?

Hello all,
I believe that it is original. The inscription is clearly IG, not JG !!!!!
Thank you for your opinion.