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    #1

    Help needed on LW Unteroffizier

    Greetings,

    I have a Luftwaffe Soldbuch, which belonged to a Unteroffizier named Willi/Willy (both of the names are in the Soldbuch) Wrautz (I think). I would like to know, if someone could help me with a little information, regarding what he experienced during the war.

    Personal information:

    Erkennungsmarke: 18/Lg.Nacht.Rgt.(mot.)11

    Geb. am 8.8.21 in Frelsenkirchen

    Religion: Baptist

    Truppentel oder Dienststelle:1): Quite many stamps, so I'll just take 4 of those places he served at.

    3.2.42: 5.Aush.-Komp.Luftfl.Nachr.-Schule 1

    En. Erf. Abt. III/7 Augsburg

    20.4.42: Ru.En.Rgt. 303---Dresden

    11.1.44 Fl.H.Komp.(A) 201/VIII

    Ausmerkungen: 1.9.44 Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwetern


    Does anyone have some information regarding some of the mentioned Regiments, Companies etc. ?

    Feel free to ask, if you need any more information.

    Cheers,
    Mads
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    #2
    Originally posted by Voldbjerg View Post
    Greetings,
    I have a Luftwaffe Soldbuch, which belonged to a Unteroffizier named Willi/Willy (both of the names are in the Soldbuch) Wrautz (I think). I would like to know, if someone could help me with a little information, regarding what he experienced during the war.
    Personal information:
    Erkennungsmarke: 18/Lg.Nacht.Rgt.(mot.)11
    Geb. am 8.8.21 in Frelsenkirchen
    Religion: Baptist
    Truppentel oder Dienststelle:1): Quite many stamps, so I'll just take 4 of those places he served at.
    3.2.42: 5.Aush.-Komp.Luftfl.Nachr.-Schule 1
    En. Erf. Abt. III/7 Augsburg
    20.4.42: Ru.En.Rgt. 303---Dresden
    11.1.44 Fl.H.Komp.(A) 201/VIII
    Ausmerkungen: 1.9.44 Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwetern
    Does anyone have some information regarding some of the mentioned Regiments, Companies etc. ?
    Feel free to ask, if you need any more information.
    Cheers,
    Mads
    5. Ausbildungs-Kp./Luftflotten-Nachrichtenschule 1:
    The school was located in Nordhausen from 1941-44. It taught courses in aircraft radio operator and ground radar operation, mainly the latter.

    Ln.-Ers.Abt. III./Luftgau-Nachrichten-Rgt. 7:
    This was located in Landsberg/Bayern during the brief time he was there. It was a replacement Abteilung with a total of 5 Kompanien. Most men were only there for a few weeks until they got their next assignment.

    Ln.-Ausbildungs-Rgt. 303:
    Was formed in Dresden in early summer 1942, but moved to Dijon/France before the end of that year. It specialized in basic and advanced radar training.

    Fliegerhorst-Kp./Fliegerhorstkommandantur A 201/VIII:
    This was an air base station command located at Stanislau (Stanislawow)/130 km SSE of Lvov around December 1943/January 1944.

    That is a gigantic leap from 20 April 1942 to 11 January 1944. He goes from a student being trained on advanced ground radar systems to a Fliegerhorstkompanie that did not have any radar. It looks like he may have washed (flunked) out of radar school and been transferred to non-technical duties with the Fliegerhorst-Kp. But that is only speculation due to an absence of further information.

    --BHS1956

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      #3
      Thank you for the information !


      I will try to scan in some of the pages, and afterwards post them here.

      I'll take the two first pages, regarding photo and rank, the pages with "Dienststelle Information" and finally the "Lazerette Information"..




      Cheers,
      Mads

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        #4
        I've taken a few pics of some of the pages in the Soldbuch, hope it will help You:

        http://profile.imageshack.us/user/voldbjerg/




        PS: How do I make the pictures smaller, so I can post them here ?


        Cheers,
        Mads

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          #5
          01.05.41 – 30.07.42: 18./Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. (mot) 11 Hannover-Bemerode
          01.08.41 – 30.11.41: Luftnachrichten-Kp./Kdo. Flughafenbereich Langenhagen
          01.12.41 – 02.02.42: Luftflotte-Nachr.Schule 3/1. Ausbildungs-Kp.
          03.02.42 – 01.10.42: 5. Ausbildungs-Kp./Luftflotte-Nachr.Schule 1
          01.10.42 – 15.01.43: 9. Schuler-Kp./Luftflotte-Nachr.Schule 1
          16.01.43 - : Luftflotte-Nachr.Schule 1 umbenannt (renamed)
          17.01.43 – 14.03.43: (I cannot read this one)
          15.03.43 – 11.11.43: Ln.-Stelle (mot Z) 28/III (Kalinovka/Ukraine)
          12.11.43 – 10.01.44: Fliegerhorstkommandantur E 10/VII (Fl.Techn.Gr.) (Uman/Ukraine)
          11.01.44 – 12.01.44: Fl.H.Kp. (A) 201/VIII. (Stanislau/Ukraine)
          13.01.44 – 10.04.44: 8./Ausbildung-u.Sammel-Rgt. Luftflottenkommando 4.
          11.04.44 – 02.01.45: Flieger-Technische-Überwachungskommando Luftflotte 4.
          02.01.45 - 22.04.45: Werftabteilung (?) 102/????
          22.04.45 - ? : Bordgeräte-Instandsetzungstrupp 103/XVII (probably in Hungary and then Austria)


          C. Ersatztruppenteil
          III./Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. (mot) 11
          Ln.-Ers.Abt. III./7 Augsburg
          III./Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. 4 Dresden


          It is now quite clear that this fellow repaired some sort of radio or signal equipment installed on aircraft. He trained for a long time and was then sent to Ukraine. He remained in the Luftflotte 4 area of operations to the end of the war.

          --BHS1956

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            #6
            So many technics units for a same man is not common !
            This man seems to have began service in classics signal units of Lw (Ln Regt.) and was later transferred to aircraft technical services (note inscription of first page : "Flugzeug Funk mechaniker").

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              #7
              Originally posted by Luft 76 View Post
              So many technics units for a same man is not common !
              This man seems to have began service in classics signal units of Lw (Ln Regt.) and was later transferred to aircraft technical services (note inscription of first page : "Flugzeug Funk mechaniker").
              Okay! I missed seeing that. Then that's what he was: an aircraft radio mechanic.

              Of all the various units listed, this is the only one that I am not familiar with: Flieger-Technische-Überwachungskommando Luftflotte 4. I have no idea what a Fl.Techn.Überw.Kdo. is or what it did. Überwachung- means "supervision" or "surveillance". So I think this may have been a detachment (Kommando = Detachment) that exercised quality control supervision over the repair of Luftwaffe technical equipment within the territory of Luftflotte 4 (at that time in western Ukraine, Romania, the Balkans and Hungary).

              --BHS1956

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                #8
                The entry 17.1.43 - 14.3.43 I read:

                Fl.H.Kdtr. E 9 / XV II H.Kp.

                Fliegerhorst Kommandantur E 9/ XV II Horst Kompanie


                Gerdan

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                  #9
                  Thank You all for the information !

                  It is good, now to know what this guy did under the war, and where he was stationed.


                  My only question is: Could it be, that this guy worked at some sort of radar station, and while working there he got his KvK 2kl. mit Schwetern ?

                  He got his KvK on 1.9.44 while he was stationed at Flieger-Technische-Überwachungskommando Luftflotte 4.

                  If I should transelate Flieger-Technische-Überwachungskommando, it would be: Air-Technical-Supervising Command-- to me it sounds a lot like a radar station.

                  Opinions ?

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                    #10
                    Thanks, Gerdan!
                    Fl.H.Kdtr. E 9/XVII was the Luftwaffe airfield command at Rotmistrovka (near Cherkassy) in January, February and March 1943 and came under Kdo. Flughafenbereich (Koflug) 2/XI at Kirovograd.

                    If I should transelate Flieger-Technische-Überwachungskommando, it would be: Air-Technical-Supervising Command-- to me it sounds a lot like a radar station.
                    No, the correct translation would be Air Technical Supervisory Detachment. It was not a command. I believe it had a quality control and inspection function. The word Kommando had the following meanings within the World War II Luftwaffe: Headquarters, Command, Detachment, order, command. In this case it is Detachment.

                    A Luftwaffe radar station was a Funkmeßstelle. If you want to learn about Luftwaffe radar sites, go to this web site: http://www.gyges.dk/

                    --BHS1956

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                      #11
                      Ok, my mistake.


                      But, if the only thing he did under the war, was to inspect raio installations on planes, then how could he get the KvK ?

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                        #12
                        He probably earned it during the bloody fighting withdrawal of German forces from Romania between 19 and 31 August 1944. That's just an educated guess.

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                          #13
                          Ok, cheers

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                            #14
                            KvK was not a medal of fight, but for good action in combat area. So no problem for a such soldier to receive it. Most of the "Flugzeug Mechaniker" have received the KvK II in order to reward their good service. The same thing for Flak soldiers or Transports men behind the front line, etc...

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