Wehrpass from a Man that was in Sondereinsatzkommando 10b

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This was not a nice thing of History than this people was Feldgendarm by the Sondereinsatzkommando 10b /Einsatzgruppe D) the OK II/939 was his unity , the was by the Nürnberg Prozess for War Criminal in the Süd Ukraine for all other the Hauptmann Weigand the signs a many entrys in the Wehrpass

Regards Thomas

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[peter u]

Hello Thomas,

Sorry but I'am a bit confused by your text.

So you think this man was with a member of an "einsatz-kommando", exterminating jews in Russia?
Because Haupt Weigand was prosecuted in Nurnberg for being an officer of the "einsatzgruppe".
Correct?
This is your view on this soldiers wp?

I w'll give you my opinion soon, first let me do some research myself.

Cheers,
Peter

[peter u]

Hello Thomas,

Iam fully awake now, so here is my repley.

First I want to say that holocaust history is very difficult to explain in short text messages.

I think this feldgendarm was not an offical member of the imfamous einsatz-gruppe.
That doesn't mean he was not involved in the mass-executions; the einsatz-gruppe were often aided (also for manning the firing-squads) by wehrmachtunits, local collaborators and even German-civilian workers, their is enough photographic evidence of those events.
As a feldgendarm he was almost certainly involved in the deportations.
But the einsatz-gruppe were a part of the SD, I don't see any evidence in this wp that he ever was a member of the SD.

Thomas did you do any research on hauptmann Weigand?
Was he convicted for being a offical member of the einsatz-gruppe or just as an wehrmachtofficer that did his part in the holocaust?
If he was an offical member of the einsatz-gruppe, should he not have been a member of the SD with an SS-rank?

Eagerly waiting for your answers?

Cheers,
Peter

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Hi Peter

Yes you have wright but the problem is my bad english and so is a many what I say differcult to understand sorry for that .

So I found in a other forum information to the Ortskommandantur II /939 in that the Feldgendarm was , the chief from this Group was Hauptmann Weigand . I found in a many search a little bit information from Hauptmann Weigand in a War Prisoner Lager 150 but I was not shure if he is that people .

The Sondereinsatzkommando 10b /Einsatzgruppe D the Ortskommandantur and his Feldgendarms were responsible for many executions on War prisoner and the make private KZ Camps in the sud ukraine , for that comes the members from the Sondereinsatzkommando 10b /Einsatzgruppe D and the Ortskommandantur II/939 in N******252;rnberg for the Jury .But I think that the Hauptmann Weigand was not found after the War and so he comes not for the Jury but I was not shure

Here was the link to the search

Ortskommandantur 939

1. Aufstellung:

* 1.1.1941 in L******252;ttich aus der halben Feld-Kommandantur 548 L******252;ttich; 27.10.1944 aufgel******246;st.

2. Unterstellung:

Wehrmachtbefehlshaber Belgien-Nordfrankreich (in Aufstellung L******252;ttich), dann 12. Armee Balkan
und noch 1941 Heeresgruppe S******252;d 11. Armee, 1943 17. Armee, 1944 Operationsgebiet S******252;dukraine

3. Ersatz:

457 Landsberg/Warthe, WK III


And here the second found from a friend in german l hope you can read is to differcult with Abacho to translate than no person can read sorry

1941/1942: unter Hauptmann Weigand: OK 939 im strategisch bedeutsamen Dschankoj/Krim.

Zusammnen mit der OK 939 lag im Winter 41/42 das Sondereinsatzkommando 10b /Einsatzgruppe D). Die OK II/939 war dort an Erschie******223;ungen, und eigenm******228;chtigen Ghetto- und Lagerbildungen beteiligt. Die "R******228;umung" des Lagers durch Massenexekutionen wurde am 30.12.41 und 2.1.42 wurde auf ausdr******252;cklichen Wunsch der OK durch SD unter Mithilfe der Feldgendarmen vorgenommen. NOKW-2231, OK II/939 T******228;tigkeitsbericht. StAnw.M******252;nchen, I, Band 6.


Hallo,

leider habe ich nichts au******223;er den Erw******228;hnungen der II/939 in den Verfahren wegen Kriegsverbrechen (Unterst******252;tzung des SK 10b auf der Krim bei Massenmorden). ******220;ber Weigand wird nach dem Jan42 nichts weiter berichtet.


Interessanterweise habe ich einen Hptm. Weigand im Lager 150, N******228;he Bahnstation Grassowijetz, an der Bahnlinie Jaroslawl - Wologda, als "Beauftragter f******252;r den Arbeitseinsatz im Lager" gefunden (offensichtlich ein Organisationstalent):
http://www.vologda-oblast.ru/periodic.as...151&V=0&LNG=DEU


Regards Thomas

[peter u]

Hello Thomas,

No problem, I can read German.

With that information you can be sure your feldgendarm was involved in the mass-executions in the southern Ukrain.
What is exact part was is ofcours not easy to find out (guard duty, firing squad member, administration,....or even a bit from everything?).
But he was not an offical member of an einsatz-gruppe, they were working together that is a fact.
The big difference between the feldgendarmerie and the einsatz-gruppe is besides one is wehrmacht and the other sipo/sd, that the feldgendarmerie also had other tasks, for example traffic control, maintaining dicipline with their own troops,...etc. The einsatz-gruppe had only one task exterminating jews.
The einsatz-gruppe were always assisted by army units and/or local collaborators even for the firing squads they depended on others.
Many German army units in the rear (almost all) were involved in aiding to the holocaust in the east; from doing guard duty at a local getto till execution jews.

So to conclude he was actively participating in the holocaust but not as a "offical"-member of an einstaz-gruppe.

Cheers,
Peter

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Is 100% wright what you say Peter

Regards Thomas