Double Swastika KZ Soldbuch

[Oberbootsmann]

That's kind of weird. Let me ask at the MFF.
But am I right that you are registered there?

Regards

[Oberbootsmann]

Daniele, you are right. You have to be Supporter to get access to the MFF.

Tomorrow I'll translate the essential points regarding the forged Soldbuch and post them here.

Regards, Matthias

[fldjr]

Here is google translation of 2 posts in that thread with information claiming it to be a fake, by "Badelatschen666"

Hello collector friends,
Given the occasion, I would like to write something about this kind of paybooks, as one here in the WFM and others halt where else (see link below) are offered.

http://www.od43.com/KL-Flossenburg_SS-TK_lot_JC.html

The entries are simply forgeries and indefinable fake signatures for all signing SS leaders. Often the forger uses the same troop-roll number and he does not know that in Flossenbürg the second and third companies were dissolved in the spring of 1943. Only the 1st Company remained and the rest of SS-T.Stuba. Flossenbürg was distributed to watch squads. This is evidenced by the military passports in Prague, which are also accessible to all on the Internet without further ado. I'm gladly available for more questions.


Hello,
No. That too is one of the fake pay books. The signature of the company commander was imitated, and in the process a recourse was made to a platoon commander named Max Ehser, who in documents in the Bundesarchiv Berlin in 1942, i.V. as company commander of the 2nd / SS T.Stuba. Flossenbürg had signed. Ehser was then transferred and was until the end of January 18, 1945 and on the evacuation march company commander of the 1st / SS Totenkopfsturmbann K.L. Auschwitz. How can he there - the signature has by the way also a hack too much - 1944 also in Flossenbürg have led a company, which according to documents no longer existed?
The stupidest thing the counterfeiter has done is because he had no idea who the administrative manager of the K.L. Flossenbürg was that he has used phantasy signatures there - and has done so in other paybooks and the company commander. One must know that in the administration of the K.L. Flossenbürg only one SS leader sat and the rest were SS-Unterführer.
The next one would be the Joke with the troop role. The counterfeiter probably had no idea what that was supposed to be and used the same - I think the 369 or something - in all of the paybooks. This is of course complete nonsense and has taken on its own already proven that it is fakes.
Finally, it should be noted that none of the names of the SB holders in any archive is detectable. No one.

[Sonderkommando]

These fake books have been in circulation for years. What fools everyone is that the books themselves are real but were totally blank to begin with. After the war, thousands of blank books were recovered from the various recruiting offices scattered around and then eventually used to make this stuff.

A good example is the absurd Lublin books, now accepted by almost everyone as real.

[hucks216]

It seems that you can't keep a good fake down - here it is back for sale again:

https://www.militaria321.com/auktion...-Pohndorf.html

[Edward]

Or it's since been cloned by someone...aka copy of a copy!

[PeterStahl]

Fake-Soldbuch Flossenbürg

Hello people, I do not want to repeat myself constantly but also this pay book is a very crude fake. No entry corresponds to reality. Only one example is that the 2nd Company was dissolved in 1943 and does not appear in any original document of Flossenbürg. Max Ehser, whose signature was badly copied there, was anything but the company commander of a 2nd Company at the time of the Soldbuch. Ehser was company commander in Buchenwald from 01.02.1945, so after 15.04.1945 he can hardly have made entries for Flossenbürg. The other signatures can not be deciphered at all and they are fantasy products. I recommend taking the picture and then destroying the scrapbook.

BR
Potsdam

[Gaspare]

The MFF is a great place,,worth to join. Good to learn from where ever you can!

Yes I remember a large number of authentic blank Soldbuchs were found in East Europe... And that one guys photo has been around somehow in multiples for years..
- anyway,,the buchs show honest wear as mentioned here as they've been in circulation for longer than the war was on!
This past MAX show a large amount of fake SS WP were there.. Many/most couldn't tell if they were authentic or counterfeits. These were great copies and only you guys that stay current and 'up' on them can tell the difference quickly...