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    russian dogtag

    hello

    i get it today from a special friend

    groundfound in austria

    greetings
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    #2
    excellent item. The first WW2 dug Soviet tag I have seen.

    You are lucky.

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      #3
      The Soviets didn't really have "dog tags" or identity disks in WWII. Early in the war they had little bakelite capsules that a soldier could write his personal information on a slip of paper and enclose it in the capsule, but the majority of KIA died unknown. This disk reads "FIELD POST OFFICE" like the German "Feldpost" and maybe was attached to a mail bag or something.

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        #4
        hello

        it was a gift

        but the info i get with it was that this is a dog tag

        the info on the dogtag is the fp number and the dog tag number !

        its a very rar dog tag

        you can see it in h******246;idal side 384 - i get it from the finder

        ....

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          #5
          Well this isn't actualy a typical dog tag. It's rather a kind of a pass.
          These were introduced in late 19th century and remained in use untill at least 60-ties. Russians used to call this "litchnyi znak" what means something like a "counting token".
          These tags were kept by an administrative officer and handed to soldiers leaving the barracks/unit. Then when they returned back to the barracks the tag was returned and could be handed to a different soldier.
          This is a main difference of these tags to typical dogtags used by all other armies where a soldier had his own tag with his own personal number.
          These tags were also introduced by Polish army after the war untill 60-ties.
          The purpose was to know the exact manpower of the unit and also to order proper quantity of food etc.
          The soldier keeping the token was obliged to show it to MP on demand.
          Apart from these passes Soviet soldiers used 2 kinds of typical ID tags.
          First was introduced in 1917 ( still by Russian Imperial Army) in a form of a metal locket with a piece of parchment inside. Very rare item - still, but very seldom, in use during early IIWW ( Karelian front etc)
          in 1940 a bakelite tube with a piece of paper was introduced and stayed in use until 1942 when the idea was discontinued due to decission of introducing a Red Army paybook as a basic and only ID document.
          Hope this helps
          All best
          Al
          Last edited by mr.dogtag; 12-22-2006, 04:03 PM. Reason: additional info

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            #6
            Thanks for the more in-depth explanation. To add, WWII Soviet soldiers would often use an expended shell cartridge, write their information on paper and seal the case's opening with parafin or wax - something to waterproof the info.

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