Verm.u.Kart.Abt.602 soldbuch

[Radcollector]

i thought i would post a scan of a new soldbuch,this man served in a interesting unit vermessungs.u.Karten.Abt (mot)602,its my understanding that they charted,surveyed,and made military maps??if im understanding tessins correctly (im probably not my german sucks!) this unit served in russia and in italy,does anyone have anymore info on this unit,or know were i can find this unit on lexicon.de??

[Ian Jewison]

Hi Yancy,

Interesting Soldbuch! Yes that would me the "measuring" of "Survey and Mapping" Battalion, which no doubt was Army Troops (Heerestruppen). Interestingly he kept the same Kriegsstammrollennummer and the unit would appear to hav been redisignated as a Battery only.

I had a quick look at Lexicon and I don't think he has such units listed at the moment.....I also tried a google search and only came up with a PDF file that listed a letter for sale from a member of that unit with FP Nr. 18768.

Accoring to Kannapin:

FP Nr. 18768

(Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) Vermessungs-Abteilung 602,
(1.2.1941-11.7.1941) Vermessungs- u. Karten-Abteilung 602,
7.2.1944 Karten-Batterie20 u. Vermessungs- u. Karten-Abteilung 573,
8.3.1944 Karten-Batterie u. Vermessungs- u. Karten-Abteilung 573.

You can see that 7.2.1944 the FP Nr. was given to another unit and 602 continued existance with:

20789

21.1.1944 Vermessungs-Batterie 602.

There probably is not much more info available unless there is a book specific to these type of units!

/Ian

[Radcollector]

hello Ian,

i picked it up cause it was a type of unit i had never seen in any WP/SB before and it was cheap as far as soldbuch go,im guessing there was not to many of these units.this guy was pretty sickly,looks like he spent most of his time in the hospital for muscle/joint disorders!thanks for the added info Ian!

[Ian Jewison]

This according to Tessin:

Vermessungs-Abteilung 602
Formed 26.8.1939 in Wehrkreis IV; Renamed Vermessungs- und Karten-Abteilung 602 on 20.6.1941; Disbanded on 6.11.1943, 1. Batterie became an independant Batterie under Vermessungs-Regimentsstab z.b.V. 1, 2. became 2./613, the Stab became under Heeresgruppe C in Italy and formed the Stab of Abteilung 573 (neu).

Uneder: Army Troops: 1942 1. Panzerarmee (Heeresgruppe A) in the Caucasus, October 1943 Ob. West.

Vermessungs-Regimentssstab z.b.V. 1
Formed 1.9.1943 in France as Stab for the Bereich OB West (Heeresgruppe D), disbanded 20.10.1944.

Replacements from Wehrkreis II.


So as you can see.....your man served with 1 Batterie which as an Abteilung serving under 1 Pz.Armee in the Caucasus then transferred under Oberbefehlshaber West to France. It became an independant Batterie 6.11.1943 and remained in France. It's parent unit was disbanded 20.10.1944......maybe he was made a prisoner by then as there are no units mentioned after 602!

/Ian

[Radcollector]

thanks for the added info,i see now that re-reading the info from lexicon ,i believe it was only the staff from his unit that went to Italy to form the staff of Abteilung 573 (neu). correct?it looks like the staff took the Fp # with them to the new unit.

[milcollector]

mapping units served in all the theatres. They were not that uncommon. The German military produced a huge amount of maps during the war. It was these mobile units that charted, surveryed and had them printed.
You should try and find a map that was produced by your unit.
Many maps have the charting unit's name printed on them.

[Radcollector]

"You should try and find a map that was produced by your unit.
Many maps have the charting unit's name printed on them."

that would be a project that would keep me busy for a while

[Michael Loeke]

Vermessungs- und Kartenabteilung 602

Hi,

you can find a picture of that unit at work in the following book

Der Rußlandkrieg fotografiert von Soldaten from Paul Carell
Page 239
On the picture they are unsing a Fernkamera

Sorry I can't scan the picure

If a forum member has this german book, and take a scan I think you would like it.

Bye
Michael

[JUNGCO]

Here you go!

[Radcollector]

Michael thanks for the added info and thanks Jeff for posting the picture