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    SS Friw.Panz.Grend Rgt. 48 Dogtag

    Hello Boy's
    This dogtag was in my mail last week and I would like to have you're opinions on it. It's from the 48 panzergrenadiers regiment Legion Niederlanden. The Englishman who sold it to me for a few pound say's it was found near Narva.
    Here are some pic's

    http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d8...ergrend483.jpg

    http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d8...ergrend482.jpg

    http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d8...zergrend48.jpg

    It was badly corroded so I've applied a big layer of vaseline on it and it came out very nicely

    Please let me know what you think of it.

    Much obligedeter
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    #2
    anyone got an opinion or is everyone just stunned?

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      #3
      Hello

      I think that this "General Seyffardt" dogtag isn`t good.

      There is a big mistake in it. Fri. is not correct. Freiw. is correct, or Frw..

      The "Trennschlitze" are looking bad, too.

      In my opinion it comes from the same series like the Wallonien Fake from Ebay ! (Same Stamp-letters)


      Best regards

      Fronti

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        #4
        Hi
        I am thinking as you Fronti , this tag is not good, the Friw is not correct.
        Best regards

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          #5
          Typical fake coming from Russia. I guess it is stamped using typewritter types as stamping tools. There are many different units made in this manner - most of them having some mistakes in spelling or units.
          Rgds
          Al

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            #6
            Thanks boy's, I've emailed the seller and asked my money back. He say's in his ad's that he has a lot of genuine dogtags that came out of an estate. I'm very curious how he will respond and hopefully do the right thing. If not, well there is always the ebay police

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              #7
              Sadfully got a rather direct email back saying all you guy's are a bunch of amateurs and can't regognize a real dogtag if it bit you in the arse

              He says he is the real expert and that when he thinks it's real, it is real. So i suspect there is no retuned payment on this one

              The ebaystand of the dealer is: medals1976 under the name of Michael Riley

              Please beware of this piece of work and don't trust anything he offers on ebay or anywhere else.

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                #8
                Heh, the guy is partially right - the tag is authentic. The problem is that the inscriptions aren't.
                Cheers
                Al

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                  #9
                  Yeah and if I'd paint the Mona Lisa on a original 16th century cloth, It's original to

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                    #10
                    Familiar font isn't it?

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                      #11
                      And the very same numbers used in Stammrolle. Lazy bastards...
                      As we say in Poland "Lies have very short legs"
                      Cheers
                      Al

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gunner II
                        Sadfully got a rather direct email back saying all you guy's are a bunch of amateurs and can't regognize a real dogtag if it bit you in the arse

                        He says he is the real expert and that when he thinks it's real, it is real. So i suspect there is no retuned payment on this one

                        The ebaystand of the dealer is: medals1976 under the name of Michael Riley

                        Please beware of this piece of work and don't trust anything he offers on ebay or anywhere else.
                        Interesting statement considering he seems to sell virtually any militaria, not just Erkennungsmarken. It's really hard to be an expert in everything and Erkennungsmarken specifically require some very special expertise because of the incredible variability, and level of fakery. And looking at his listings and finding a disc that is clearly from 'Heeres-Munitions-Anstalt Priebus' with a description: "This is an rare early alloy WW2 German Dog tag impressed H.M.A PRIEBUS. It appears this is some sort of unit and needs further research. A rare dog tag and guaranteed authentic." (my underline) doesn't instill a lot of confidence in his 'expertise'.

                        And there's more:

                        "3./L.SCH. BTL.254, this is some sort of protection company"
                        Clearly a Landessch******252;tzen unit

                        "This is an original WW2 German dog tag for the 8th ** Kavallarie-Division "Florian Geyer" which comes with an original elite Feldpost letter dated 1943 and addressed to a member of the same Regiment. The dog tag is in excellent condition and is totally genuine and is impressed ** GEN.BATTR.LE.A.E.A.8. "
                        The genesenden-Batterie of leichte-Artillerie-Ersatz-Abteilung 8 wasn't even part of the Waffen-SS!

                        "The dog tag is impressed FL.H.Kdtr./A./Oels. This must have been an Airbase, dog tag may have belonged to a Pilot, ground combat troops or P.O.W in Russia"
                        OR it could have been worn by a member of the Fliegerhorst Kommandantur- i.e., airfield personnel...

                        "8./G.R.135 11.L.H. This tag being a Grenadier Regiment. Early alloy issue."
                        The designation 'Grenadier' replaced 'Infanterie' on 15. October, 1942... not very early

                        "2./J.E.Btl 304. This dog tag belonged to a member of a Jager Regiment. Early alloy issue."
                        Actually, that's just Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon 304- the 'J' is an 'I'. There was no J******228;ger-Ersatz-Regiment 304...

                        So it certainly doesn't seem like us who are the amateurs and can't recognize a real dogtag if it bit us in the arse...
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                          #13
                          Get a load of this.
                          This is the email he sended me

                          Further to my previous email, I have noticed you slandering my name on the forum. This is very concerning especially quoting my name and details. I will be looking into this further and reporting you to the forum. I am a collector, not a dealer and sell to fund my collection. Also as a serving law enforcement officer and member of the Interntional Police Association which also covers the Netherlands, I will be seeking advice from colleagues and contacts about you slandering my name and will conduct all legal means necessary to put this right.

                          Mike.
                          Very nice character isn't he?

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                            #14
                            Yeah,yeah...
                            ...and J.W.B. is my uncle and will send you a missile there to Neds ....
                            It reminds me a Latvian faker trying to send me some crap via Ebay. When I told him my oppinion about his stuff he said that I should not stick my nose into his bussiness otherwise me and my family will have serious problems . Well, I survived .
                            Cheers
                            Al

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                              #15
                              Well, con-artists does'nt like to be exposed.

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