My salty "Hoch-und-Deutschmrister" Soldbuch

[Reiner]

Hello!
Here is very salty, but very nice Soldbuch of Kanonier from A.R.96 (44. Infanterie-Division, later "Hoch-und-Deutschmeister").

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[Reiner]

I am sorry, please move this thread to other forum.

[phil1942]

do you know if he made it to Stalingrad with the 44th ?

[Simon O.]

I thought it was only the new 44 ID that was raised in '43 that was called H u D ?

[Reiner]

do you know if he made it to Stalingrad with the 44th ?

He received a wound on 5th august 1942, and was in Lazarett till 10.02.1943.

[phil1942]

wow lucky guy, he perfectly timed his wound and hospital stay to miss the entire Stalingrad episode !!

[Simon O.]

Very lucky. A million dollar wound or blighty wound.

[Edward]

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Just a comment that relates to descriptions of Soldbuchs in general.

In this regard it looks as if a pass photo was attached at one time. If so, did the kanonier remain with any unit within the division after his wounding? I ask as the scans provided do not provide anything that would support the title of your post. What the scans do show is front service when the division was Infantrie Division 44. Which would have been a more historically correct title for the post. It was not until May-June 1943 that the division was rebuilt and given the honorary title, Reichsgrenadier Division Hoch und Deutchmeister.



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[Reiner]

Thank you for answer, Edward!
The point is that after Lazarett he came back to the SAME unit, to Genesenen-Abteilung des A.R.96. in re-created 44. Division, Reichsgrenadier Division "Hoch und Deutchmeister".

[Simon O.]

That's very interesting. I would imagine there was only a very tiny handful of men from the old 44 ID that were then transferred into the newly raised formation. Those few away on courses, leave, detached duty or recovering from wounds as your man was.

Is page 4 present and what were his awards?

[Reiner]

More pics...
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[Reiner]

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[Edward]

Thank you for providing further information Reiner.

Simon, although the bulk of the division did go into captivity. The numbers remaining would not have been quite as small as one would imagine. Continious action, along with an intact convalescent, replacement, and training system within the Wehrkreis insured that the 44th had a core of experienced former personnel from which to draw on after Stalingrad. Then factor in all those personnel who were discharged for wounds, or who were fit only for base type duties the numbers add up even further.

[Simon O.]

Ok, so he picks up a promotion whilst convalescing then get's transferred to a Landesschützen kompanie. This one according to Tessin was in Lemberg around early '43. That would indicate his wound being serious enough that he was no longer fit for a frontline unit.

The order to reform the 44 was only issued 5 days prior to the promotion shown, 'his' AR 96 no longer existed nor did the new AR 96 exist yet so he certainly wasn't with the regiment.

Now, the core of the newly raised division came from the NCO courses being held in Wehrkreis XVII and XIII. Could it be that whilst convalescing this man was sent on one fo the NCO courses in wehrkreis XVII (his home Wk.), at the end of which he was promoted unteroffizier and because of his wounds sent to landesschützen Btl.888 (also a Wk.XVII unit).


There seems to be other promotions, now no longer legible but there's a clue in the 'Haupmann und Kompanieführer' stamp. That's not and artillerie unit.

[alessio cammelli]

44 H.u.D......this is a great Division.....it fought in 1944 against 5^ US Army throught the Appennins (Italy)...was been a great battle....