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**Mark C. Yerger** · 02-28-2006, 08:42 PM

it was a motorized AuE (training and replacement battalion) unit, formed in May 1944 in Landschut, then moved to Neuberg and subordinated to Wehrkreis VII. Stationed in Kolding, Denmark, in 1945 and surrendered in Copenhagen at the end of the conflict.

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**Carl Ellingstad** · 03-01-2006, 02:23 AM

Mark: Many thanks for your fast reply to my request

If I understand the unit definition correct this was a Infantery training and replacement unit who was motorized? And not a "pure" transport training unit?

**Mark C. Yerger** · 03-01-2006, 02:48 AM

Its designation did not make specific infantry, etc but assume it was a general training/replacement unit being attached to the WK (not a transport only unit). Motorized is simply upgraded status from horse drawn components.

Mark C. Yerger

**Carl Ellingstad** · 03-01-2006, 02:53 AM

Very interesting information! Once again, thanks for the help in ID this unit Mark!

**Matt L** · 03-02-2006, 01:14 PM

Hi Carl,

The reference specifically states that this unit was 'zur Erfassung magenkranker Soldaten'- 'for the collection of soldiers with stomach illnesses.' Presumably it is distinct from a Genesenden unit, which is where soldiers who had completed their convalescence after sickness or wounding went before returning to the front. This suggests to me that these men may have had chronic illness, and were probably from non-combat units, but the need for replacements prompted their (probably quick) training as ground troops. They weren't true Infanterie, this would account for the lack of a designation for the unit.

Ersatz- und Ausbildungs-Bataillon (m) 277

* 25.5.1944 in Landshut, später Neuburg, Wehrkreis VII, ; 1945 in Kolding/Dänemark, zuletzt Kopenhagen.

**Carl Ellingstad** · 03-02-2006, 01:54 PM

Hi Matt!
Thanks for the input, I have some difficulity to understand this. Because the unit stamp was stamped inside the cover of the D1865/1 Karabiner 43 mit Zielfernrohr K 43. This is the school manual to train soldiers in use and maintain of the rifle and the scope. This is not the weapon any second line units would be armed with specially not in 1945. I had a idea that this Ausb unit was connected to the sniper training camp located some where in Denmark!! But I cant find the documents I have on that training camp!

**Mark C. Yerger** · 03-03-2006, 08:13 AM

As I wrote, it would have included a variety of troop types, being an AuE connected to a WK when formed. It could, and would, have included a variety of branches/areas and not just transport as you mentioned.

Mark

**Matt L** · 03-03-2006, 11:51 PM

That's interesting Carl- but then it is just a manual. Maybe it was simply because so late in the war virtually any soldier in the Wehrmacht at the end could be armed with any weapon- depending on what was available- so they'd benefit from having the manual just in case. It could have simply been that there was a standard batch of manuals that an infantry-type unit got, and this was one of them.

The unit listing is quite specific that it was created for soldier with stomach ailments, so I can't see how there'd be any association with such specialists as Scharfschützen.

Matt

**Carl Ellingstad** · 03-04-2006, 07:31 AM

It may be very well like you suggest Matt that the manual was part of a standard batch delivered to training units. Im pissed on myself for losing the documents I had on the Danish sniper training camp. Would have been fun to cross check if there was any connections between those two units.

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