luft FELD DIV soldbuch

[fran1942]

nb. How come the order of the awards entries on the award page is not continuous ?

Here is my latest. A decent little soldbuch to a jager in LUFTWAFFE FELD DIV. 12, JAGER REGIMENT 24.
12th Feld Div was perhaps the most successful of the luftwaffe feld divs. THey were consistently regarded as one of the top combat units in AG North.
My soldier here appears to have been a mechanic ? in Holland - and then joined the 12th Feld division at its formation in late 1942. Sent to the Wolchow front for the whole of 1943, served right through 1943 in the marshes and woods of northern russia then fell back through the Baltic states with the rest of AG North.
He appears to have transferred from Jager Regiment 24 to the divisions workshop company for a time. Probably to make use of his motor vehicle skills he had before he joined the feld division ?
It would then appear my man here got shot in the defence of RIGA, LATVIA in late September 1944 going by the date and the 12th Division's location at the time.
He was then sent to hospital back in Germany. After release from hospital he was posted to infantry convalesence ersatz batallion 499. From this unit he was given two weeks leave. The day after his leave expired he was then admitted to hospital with a code 34 which is "accident or self inflicted wounds". Sound suspicious ? - Maybe he did not like the idea of going back to the front after his lenghty hospital stay and convalescent batallion service, therefore putting a bullet through his foot ??? !! That ends his soldbuch history. The February 1945 second entry into hospital seems to have closed the chapter of his wehrmacht service. He was one of the luckier ones. His frontline unit was being ground down in the Kurland Pocket at that time.
He had some nice awards including close combat clasp, infantry assault, EK1 wound badge.
He also received the EK2 in 1940 when he was with the motor park in Holland. I can only imagine this would have been awarded for anti-resistance operations ???

Any comments or corrections on my deductions would be welcome.
Here are the pics. Thanks guys.
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold1.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold2.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold3.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold4.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold5.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold6.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold7.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold8.jpg
http://www.bphprint.co.nz/sold9.jpg

ALWAYS LOOKING TO BUY AFRIKA KORPS SOLDBUCH OR WEHRPASS.

[douglynn]

nice book y no stamp for ek1 and ccc i am no expert but i am sure some one will explain all the same nice clean book

[JUNGCO]

Haven't we seen this book before? The EKII, EKI and Nahkampfabz emtries are bad.

Jeff

[douglynn]

as i thought as there was no stamp great shame y do they do it

[fran1942]

OK that is a little bit of bad news. I was a little suspect when I bought the book about those entries. However upon close examination with a magnifying glass I was sure they were period. An old style pen has been used and the ageing of the ink etc looks exactly like all the other entries in the book. Actually the EK1 and close combat entries have been "double written". Underneath the darker ink, they have originally been written in lighter ink but seem to have faded due to water damage etc., therfore they have been overwritten in darker ink (except the signature). Why would a faker bother doing that ? If they are doctored awards, then they are certainly aged well and look identical to other writing in the book.
Has this book been discussed before? Can someone please direct me to the thread.
If this book has been doctored, then I guess I had better release the name and details of the dealer.
How come his wound badge is entered right at the top of the page. I thought these entries would be in chronological order ?

[douglynn]

hey dont feel bad i was 100per cent sure on mine untill i was told different look at my e k 1 this one sliped in under the wire

[douglynn]

is it not the case that every award would have a stamp unless all grouped together

[douglynn]

as in this one

[fran1942]

good points Doug, thanks for the pics.
When you look at your EK1 fake entry with a magnifying glass, does it look like it was written 60 years ago, or does it look "fresh".
When I look at my suspect entries they all definitely look like they were written 60 years ago with a nib pen. The ink really has that faded, aged look.
Thanks mate.

[Gary T]

good points Doug, thanks for the pics.
When you look at your EK1 fake entry with a magnifying glass, does it look like it was written 60 years ago, or does it look "fresh".
When I look at my suspect entries they all definitely look like they were written 60 years ago with a nib pen. The ink really has that faded, aged look.
Thanks mate.

You don't need to look under a microscope...the writing itself screams fake. Then there's no stamp. Then there's the question why is an EK2 entry from 1940 stuffed between two October 1944 entries. You yourself have asked how he won the EK2 in holland when part of a motor park. There was no resistance in Holland in 1940. The reason for the EK2 is, of course, so that the faker could added the EK1 and throw in a CCC for good measure.

PS I've never seen 12 LW Felddivision mentioned as one of AG North's best units. I've seen it mentioned as one of the worst...together with the other LW Felddivisions in that AG. AG North had a large number of extremely good Heer infantry divisions. Given the lack of experience and training in the LW divisions it is no surprise they consistently failed in the field when put under any kind of real pressure.

[fran1942]

Gary, thank you kindly for your input.
I must however take you up with your statement that 12th Luftwaffe Feld division was one of the worst divisions in AGNorth.
Please tell me where you read that. I would be interested to see it.
All my information states that 12th Feld Division's officer corps was measured excellent and the division was considered by AG North / Courland as one of the best units it possessed.
Also quoted "they were one of the most effective formations of 18th Army".
Also quoted "the division was listed at the end of 1943 as one of the stronger divisions of AGNorth,classed as Category 3 (capable of full defence).
The General of the division was highly regarded by AG North. He was awarded the oak leaves to his Knights Cross for excellent emplyment of the division during the fighting withdrawal, in fact he was so well thought of that he was given command of the armoured spearhead when German forces attempted to link up with German forces in East Prussia.

[douglynn]

2 things i would like to ask here (1 )if you can tell please how much did you pay and was it sold as an ek1 (2 )i wonder if some of these fake entrys may have been done by the man his self as in [look what i did in the war son]you can tell me in a pm if you like.i tend now to look at all nice entrys in any books.with much thought.one i put on the forum before.and was quickly spotted by gary was sent back for a full refund.as this was sold as an ek1.and through no fault of the dealer