HELP!!!! please identify this tag :)

[John_B]

I know there are some seriously knowledgable people on here, i've had help in the past....can you help, please... Just picked up half a tag (grave registration end) from a box of stuff marked
FI.P/Kdo.A9/V11 Crailsheim with the number 8922 on the top, no blood group, any ideas? I thought at first it may be a piliot ?? anyone help please, i don't expect it to be much. just to know would be nice
thanks everso

[Matt L]

Are you certain that's what disc reads? Because as is, it doesn't immediatley make any sense to me- but if the markings aren't 100% clear and there's a chance some of the letters could be different, it makes more sense. Could you possibly post a picture of it?

Matt

[John_B]

Are you certain that's what disc reads? Because as is, it doesn't immediatley make any sense to me- but if the markings aren't 100% clear and there's a chance some of the letters could be different, it makes more sense. Could you possibly post a picture of it?

Matt

Hi Matt, Can't put a picture on, as it won't come out good, I've tried but its all a bit unreadable, I picked up another in the box which is more straight forward 3./Panz.Abw.Ers.Abt6 with the number 82 and blood group A, as for the one I listed I've checked the letters under a glass and the first two letters are either FL or FI [B]P / Kdo.A9/V11Crailsheim [/B] the last part is quite clear, its just the first part thats hard to see, Never sen one like this before, what does the "crailsheim" mean?
Any ideas would be good, thanks
John

[Matt L]

Hi John,

Ah, okay- I'd wondered if it might actually be 'Fl. H.', which is 'Flieger-Horst', but now I recognize that 'FL.P. Kdo 9/VII' is 'Flugplatz-Kommando 9/VII' in the city of Crailsheim, and I found that in the references, so it did definitely exist. I'm not exatly sure what the 'A' is for though. 'VII' is the Luftgau BTW. So this disc would have belonged to a member of the airfield command- not necessarily one of the commanders mind you, but really anyone in the department. The date '1942' is in the reference listing as well, so I'd assume this means the designation 'Flugplatz-Kommando 9/VII' is as of some time in 1942.

Your second one is 3. Kompanie Panzer-Abwehr-Ersatz-Abteilung 6 - as you say, quite straightforward.

Matt

[Matt L]

Here's the unit information I have:

Luftgau-Kommando VII

Units:

Flakbrigade IV München (seit 29.9.1942)
Flakbrigade XX Stuttgart (seit Juni 1943)
Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 7 Augsburg
Am 1.4.1944 wurde der Luftgau XII/XIII aufgelöst und dessen Gebiet größtenteils dem Luftgau VII
übertragen. Damit unterstanden dem Luftgau:
Flak-Division 21 Darmstadt
Flak-Division 26 München (1.5.1944 aus Flakbrigade IV)
Flak-Brigade 9 Stuttgart (August1944 an Stelle von XX)
Flak-Brigade 21 Nürnberg
Am 6.9.1944 wurden die frontnahen Gebiete des Luftgaus den Luftgauen XIV (Wiesbaden) und V
(Stuttgart) übertragen. Damit schieden auch die Flak-Division 21 und die Flak-Brigade 9 aus. Die
Brigade 21 wurde nach Halle verlegt. Zuletzt schied im Februar 1945 auch die 26. FIak-Division aus
dem immer mehr verkleinerten Luftgau aus und trat unter das IV. Flakkorps. Der Sitz des Luftgaus war
1.11.1944 Kloster Scheyern/Bayern und 24.4.1945 Markt Schwaben. Die Bodenorganisation umfaßte
Sommer 1942 Flughafenbereich 2/VII Bad Aibling (mit dem früh. Bereich Schleißheim),
Flughafenbereich 4/VII Leipheim (mit dem früh. Bereich Landsberg), später mobil m. Feldpost-Nummer
Flughafenbereich 6/VII Straßburg (mit den früheren Bereichen Böblingen und Memmingen)
und an Flugplatz-Kommandos 2/VII Freiburg, 3/VII Echterdingen/Württ., 4/VII Hagenau/Els., 8/VII
Böblingen, 9/VII Crailsheim, 11/VII Göppingen, 12/VII Ingolstadt, 13/VII Kaufbeuren, 15/VII
Schleißheim, 16/VII Landsberg/Lech, 25/VII Mannheim-Sandhofen, 28/VII SchwäbeiHall-Hessental,
29/VII Nellingen/Württ., 30/VII Schongau/Lech, 33/VII Holzkirchen/Obbei, 31/VII Innsbruck, 35/VII
Salzburg oder nach der Umgliederung 1943 neu die Flughafenbereichs-Kommandos 11/VII
Landsberg/Lech und 12/VII Neustadt/Weinstraße und umbenannt alle Fliegerhorst-Kommandanturen:
1/VII Bad Aibling, 2/VII Ingolstadt, 3/VII Neubiberg bei München, 4/VII München-Riem, 5/VII
Schleißheim, 6/VII Crailsheim, 7/VII Freiburg, 8/VII Echterdingen, 9/VII Göppingen, 10/VII Hagenau,
1l/VII Schwäbei Hall-Hessental, 12/VII Fürstenfeldbruck bei München, 13/VII Lechfeld bei Augsburg,
14/VII Kaufbeuren/Allg., 15/VII Memmingen, 16/VII Neuburg/Donaund

Panzerabwehr-Ersatz-Abteilung 6

Created on 26.8.1939 in Hamm, Wehrkreis VI; moved to Thorn on 1.11.1939, and then again to Kulmsee in West Prussia on 25.11.1939. Redesignated Panzerjäger-Ersatz-Abteilung 6, Kulmsee, on 21.3.1940 moved again moved to Herford 15.8.1940, than back to Hamm on 18.3.1942; in 1943 Redesignated Panzer-Jagd-Ersatz- und Ausbildungs-
Abteilung 6 and once again moved to Herford.

The unit would have generally supplied replacement troops to Panzer-Abwehr (Panzerjäger) Abteilung 6 and probably those of the other Infanterie-Divisionen of Wehrkreis VI (29 in all).

[John_B]

thanks

what a mine of information you are matt I truely thank you for the effort you have made, So.......... Is it quite rare ? rare ? or well done it only cost me a fiver, so for once, I may have got a bargin!!!!
once again, thank you

[Matt L]

Hi John,

No problem, I'm happy to have been able to help. I'd say that unit type is rarer side- for a non-combat unit; not quite bloody, but not exactly common either . I've never actually seen one before so it's rarer than its uncommon cousin the Flieger-Horst-Kommandantur. If it's in relatively good condition, I'd say you did fairly well at £5- I'd expect to see on like this at best for $12USD or more from a dealer.

Matt

[John_B]

Hi John,

No problem, I'm happy to have been able to help. I'd say that unit type is rarer side- for a non-combat unit; not quite bloody, but not exactly common either . I've never actually seen one before so it's rarer than its uncommon cousin the Flieger-Horst-Kommandantur. If it's in relatively good condition, I'd say you did fairly well at £5- I'd expect to see on like this at best for $12USD or more from a dealer.

Matt

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[Matt L]

Wow that's a very generous offer John- I'll find something nice for you in return

Matt