Deschler theory

[unimarc]

Thanks My friend
Yes, books and popular belief are not always right

[unimarc]

Here non magnetic vs “normal” Deschler

[unimarc]

Here “ normal” Deschler vs “ “ Round 3” Deschler

[unimarc]

Weights

[unimarc]

Reverses
Compare “normal “ Deschler vs non magnetic ( massive hinge block)

[unimarc]

Reverses of the sample row

[sanya13]

Hí Marc

great job , I love read and finally not only a good one or not, but a good reasoning
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congrat my friend

[unimarc]

Thanks Sanya

[Douglas 5]

Hi unimarc :
I only asked a question - you seem to get upset about it ?

I ask another question about the late flaw .. see picture .

Douglas

[unimarc]

Hi Douglas,
I do apologize if I seemed upset , that was definitely not my intention
The die flaw I was talking about is not that one , but that one too
It is this one on these pictures , 9 o’clock arm lower curve ( I don’t know how to circle, only have my phone available atm )
Best regards
Marc

[Douglas 5]

Hi Marc
Is it these 2 flaws here ?
I do all the 'marking' in windows paint .

Douglas

[streptile]

Conclusion :
The fact that ALL flaws are present and frame are identical to late war Deschlers, the materials are thinner ( cheaper than thicker) and both crosses has another type hardware , including hinge type, than all other Deschlers, lead me to believe, that the non magnetic type is in fact VERY LATE type , and NOT EARLY as to popular belief

Very nice presentation

Everything seems to be identical to a cross made over ten years after the war finished: same thin frame, same flaws, same core material, same very typical 1950s or 1960s hollow folded hinge construction.

My conclusion would be that the non-magnetic Deschelrs are postwar.

Is this not a better possibility?

[Douglas 5]

Wow !

Trevor : Clarification needed :
" ... same very typical 1950s or 1960s hollow folded hinge construction."
This is important .... as I have to now throw out all my early unmarked EK1s with 100% matching folded hinge construction ?? ... as post war fakes .
... is there any chance of these being war time left overs components ? I can't see them having kept original tooling that long ?

Douglas

[streptile]

Hi Douglas,

I said only that the folded hinge construction is "very typical" for postwar EK1s, not that all such hinges are postwar.

[Douglas 5]

OK good ...
The concern I have is with the split frame that holds the post war core .
Being rare I am trying to rule out that the core was not switched out . The pin set to me looks to be early ... I see it to be too much of a perfect match .

Marc :
I would like to ask if I can get a side shot of that - post war cross ...to see how bad the frame separation is all around ?
Also to the line up sequence - see picture below .

Thanks, Douglas