Clasp to the Iron Cross 1st Class - Your opinions

[aviatikus]

Hello,

I need your opinions about this clasps to the iron cross 1st class. The span of the left one is 42 mm, the right is 45 mm. No marker. Many thanks for the help.

Aviatikus

[rbminis]

They look like unmarked L/11's, (Wilhelm Deumer), to me.
Ralph.

[Jean-Claude]

They look like unmarked L/11's, (Wilhelm Deumer), to me.
Ralph.

I agree: 2 very nice EK I spanges the left one is typical Deumer but the right one has a sligthly different head outline and appears more "3D" than the left one but overall detail looks the same: maybe an earlier/different die? The metal also looks different: nickel silver for the left one & tombac for the right one

Regards

JC

[Patrick W]

the right hand one is an early S&L and much scarcer

[rbminis]

the right hand one is an early S&L and much scarcer

Thank you Patrick!
I was a little unsure of the Deumer statement on this one as there were some differences, but I couldn't come up with another maker that it resembled.
Ralph.

[Jean-Claude]

Thanks for the info Patrick, the S&L is a first for me as well

Best

JC

[aviatikus]

Many thanks so far!!