Spanienkreuz without swords- Last purchase

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[Rich G]

I dont understand how these can be marked with a PKZ code as the awarding of the cross was a one-time thing long before the PKZ was founded.

Makes no sense as at most only the LDO number should be present.

Rich

[Thomas Durante]

Perhaps a simple mistake?

Or could be the PKZ numbers are earlier than we suspect.

Or could be postwar made, and put together with leftover wartime marked pins.

With S&L its often a mystery.

Tom

[Jelle M.]

Or this is simply a replacement cross made in the pkz period...

[kronn]

A cross in stock maybe with a hardware made in PKZ time

[Ludwig]

Even early awards were produced late during the war, as replacements, as Nightstalker says, as 1914 ICs, Pour le Mérite etc. were made during the 30´s.

[Brian S]

Postwar most likely without LDO marking. Fact S&L was churning out postwar.

[ss-werewolf]

is original ?

[Dietrich Maerz]

... Or could be the PKZ numbers are earlier than we suspect. ...

The time of introduction of the PKZ numbers is really not a question of suspicion. The purpose is clear (tracing shipments to the maker for orders and medals handled by the PKZ), the group of orders and medals handled by the PKZ is also known and undisputed.
If one takes the time and lists all these orders and medals and goes through the available documentation (like dates of institution) then there cannot even be the slightest doubt that the PKZ numbers were introdcued late 1942/early 1943. (The Awards of the Heer, Vol. II, page 417 ff)

Existence of the PKZ numbers during the initial award period of the Spain Cross is absolutely inconveivable. It is also known that the award process was officially closed down in early 1940. There was no reason to order any crosses by the PKZ since replacement could be bought privately. However, there are absolutely believable reports that "4"-marked Spain Crosses were found in Schloss Klessheim. They could have only come to that place via the PKZ in Berlin when the stock was moved down there.

That is what is known as of this date. As always, S&L is a murky topic!

[gibello]

As I told you before you get angry, for me it is not a piece in wartime, it is totally illogical to be marked only with the number 4, I hope now that you tell others you believe it.

I completely agree with his colleague Dietrich Maerz.