EK2 question

[nordi76]

Hi guys!
Can you help me with confirm of manufacturer of this unmarked examples.
First is probably Walter & Henlein, Gablonz.I hope this pics is enough good
Best Regards
N.

[nordi76]

Second is Variant 8???

[Hanhart]

I think You might be right , here is mine "variant 8"

[sanya13]

IMO the first a W&H and the second a Assmann type ( so called "8" variant )

[nordi76]

Many thanks for confirm
All the Best
N.