EK1 Otto Schickle Pforzheim

[Moore-Grant]

Here is my L15 marked ,Otto Schickle of Pforzheim, EK1 I have had for many years.

In good, worn condition overall. Iron core shows slight paint loss & crazing in a few areas.

What stories these unknown recipient medals must tell?

Thanks.

MG

[grueni1208]

I'm sorry to say, but your EK I is a well known fake, so called "Floch fake".

[Dansson]

I'm sorry to say, but your EK I is a well known fake, so called "Floch fake".

I agree.

[Moore-Grant]

I'm sorry to say, but your EK I is a well known fake, so called "Floch fake".

Seriously!!!! Blimey, always thought it was a good one.

When were they made? Anyway, I know where I brought it & I'll take it back to them.

Thanks for the info though.

Cheers

[beuwulf]

Otto Schickle L/15 as MakerMark

[Dennis J]

I'm sorry to say, but your EK I is a well known fake, so called "Floch fake".

I am sorry to say that this is true......Floch has been around a long time.

Dennis J

[Moore-Grant]

I am sorry to say that this is true......Floch has been around a long time.

Dennis J

Balls, always thought it good due to detail & construction.

I shall take it back to the seller either way, been years though.

Cheers

[Mike Kenny]

These Flochs started appearing mid to late 80s.

[streptile]

These Flochs started appearing mid to late 80s.

My understanding from talking to Johannes Floch is that it was in the late 1960s. He told me that bought them from Austria and sold them in the US as repros.

[Robert P.]

Merely to help this is an original L15 Otto Schickle EKI...

[Robert P.]

More...

[Robert P.]

Lastly...

[Moore-Grant]

Thanks so much for a good image of a real Otto Schickle EK1.

All is good my end. The seller I had brought it from has taken it back & refunded me.
He too was totally taken by the overall quality of the Floch copy.

Cheers

[Moore-Grant]

Can I just add this, in regard to Floch fakes & the beading overlapping near cross centre & tips. I have been looking at other EK1 & EK2, & some of their beading
overlaps too.

Here are some examples of genuine EK2's with overlapping beading:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=922866

Is it fair to say some makers had overlapping beading on some centres & tips?

So it is not a fake if the beading does criss cross on some makers examples of EK1 & EK2, as photographic examples of genuine crosses show this?

Thanks

[Dennis J]

My understanding from talking to Johannes Floch is that it was in the late 1960s. He told me that bought them from Austria and sold them in the US as repros.

You are right he has as I said been around a long time with Souval.I can remember seeing Floch and Souval at the first MAX shows.I have known Souval for a long time ...but that is another story.

Dennis J