Couple of unmarked EK2s

[Spielhahnjaeger]

Recently got these in a lot. Any guesses as to the makers? Thanks in advance!

Cross 1:





Cross 2:

[Douglas 5]

First cross is a Souval and the second cross could be a S&L ?
Have to turn the cross right side up - it hurts my neck to much .

Douglas

[Spielhahnjaeger]

Thanks, Douglas! Yeah, sorry about the orientation. The pic hosting site steadfastly insisted on rotating the images.