Stickpin THREADING....

[RKC]

"Right-hand" Threading or "Left-hand" Threading or "Both" ?

On and off over the years I have heard a voice behind me
state that only WWII Stickpin "Threading" was to be "Right-hand"
Twist to prove time of manufacture.

Is there someone here who has the 'correct' answer to this?

[juoneen]

I have never heard that , never heard a voice behind me pointing that out, but I would imagine there were right ,and left helix pins and also some were made without although usually everyone thinks they are fake if they are without(many fakes ARE devoid of this feature ) , I have found them without although in stuff brought home by vets they got during the war.
Pin material could easily be have the 90 degree bend on the wrong end, but Its likely these pins were jobber supplied, and whatever end they bend or sharpen, whouldn't matter much as the purpose for its helix is the same.
Most of the time longer sticklins should have this feature to prevent the pin from coming loose from the material it is pinned to.
Shorter pins with 180 degree bends with a flat soldered to the emblem don't always .
I think the only way to test the theory or voices assertions is to do a helix stickpin thread showing lots of known types that are originals, and see what the evidence brings forth.
There are different types of these helixes, some done quite detailed, some crimped , others very lightly.
Tell us more about the voice telling you this , is it a fellow collector, or just a feeling you are talking about , or... this is how you are expressing the feeling?

[juoneen]

With over a hundred stickpin manufacturers, the pin part would be jobber provided , and if the pin was to have the feature or not would be more important than which direction it turned, but I would imagine that would be up to the jobber. I don't think there is a "correct answer". (jump in fellows, lets see )

[Peter J.]

There is no answer to this question that can be seen as an axiom, the pin should always be viewed in conjunction with the actual badge. I would however be extra careful with a pin that runs the knurls from right to left i.e. opposite direction than the SC illustrated here. They are more than often encountered on the 57's though.

cheers
Peter

[Douglas 5]

Yes the actual badge is the most important feature .
The direction of the 'knurling' seams to be predominantly from left to right going up .
There is probably a dozen or more - knurl variations ! ... cut , hot and cold twist ...conical and uneven ... -short medium or full length - 1 or 2 groves ... etc .
... all up to the maker what he wanted to use .
a) Example :The same pin type with 4 different knurl types .
b) Early party pin with right to left knurling .

Douglas

[Peter J.]

Douglas, thanks for filling in. Here are a few more. On the bottom row the PAB is resoldered, the combo isn't exactly textbook, the DSB is postwar and the EK WW1. I may be out on a limb here, but type of knurls on that Party pin is one of the types I spontaneously don't feel comfortable with (I've been wrong before).

cheers
Peter

[Douglas 5]

Hi Peter :
The early Party pin is an old picture from 2000 -- I kept from Snyders Treasures web site - marked as original back then ....
Do not have the front picture any more .

Douglas

[RKC]

Thanks guys!

I was just double-checking.

I have quite a few nice stickpins of the 9 mm & 16 mm size & all mine
are "right-hand" twist but I have seen a few on dealers' sites that had
the "left-hand" twist on ones that were different from mine & I wanted
to find out before I approached them to purchase those stickpins.

Here's a few of mine with the "right-hand" twist on them.

Ron.

[Douglas 5]

First it will be very hard from that one picture to determine if those pins are original or not .... there are fakes of every thing !

Now a very lucrative business for fakes is -- Anything SS !

Here a few Stick Pins :

Douglas