Kc l/58

[chahler]

Just pick this cross , and to me its looks like dropped 3 version ?
I will appreciate your opinion on this one

[chahler]

Jg

[Tony T-S]

Yes, it is a post war Souval set.

[Tom B]

Souval post war JUNK !

[AndyC]

As said, postwar made by Rudolf Souval



Andy

[Douglas 5]

All of it post war .

Douglas

[Ludwig]

Bad fake. Souval crap.

[kraut72]

postwar Souval set..

[chahler]

Thanks guys !

[Matthieu]

Postwar Souval, but wouldn't call it all junk - they care collectable.
The oaks ( also postwar ) are a rarer version - set ( as is ) has some value

Mathijs

[chrisje110]

Its postwar, but no junk ! All the guys in this topic that consider them junk can hapily send me all there Souval Knights crosses. I will pay for shipping !

Il gladly wait for your PMs

[Tony T-S]

You'll be waiting a while. These are all "Junk" until someone asks you to give them away, then all of a sudden big money comes into the picture. These were banned from the Post war forum because it was suggested that they should be discussed here, and this is the typical reception. Oh well, rant over. As Matthieu said a good set with a rarer set of oaks. It doesn't seem to have been stored well by the state of the core

[speedytop]

Hi,

why such an excitement?

Those pieces are normal post war copies/reproductions.

Uwe

[Ron C.]

If you had ever been to the "trophy shop" called Rudolph Souval K.G. at Siebensterngasse, Wien, and actually got to go up to the "special room" and met Herr Umlauf (the old gray haired gentleman who was "Rudolph Souval") (he actually wasn't but he was the man who ran it and called all the shots") you might not be so dismissive of "Souval". He never tried to pass off the products are "real". Instead that was done by collectors and mostly dealers, who were trying to fleece other gullible less experienced collectors. He told everyone they were replicas, and not exact ones at that.......he could have made (and did sometimes) much better ones, but the cost would have been much higher. He was very helpful and spent a long time talking with me and showing me around. I don't guess you would believe that one of the reasons he made things was to provide to the prior servicemen a cheap means of having a "representative" for the medal or badge that was lost to them during the war......one that looked somewhat like the one from the time. I was never back there after the mid-70s, and never even corresponded with him, so I know nothing about the place or him after that. However, since he was an older man when I was there, I assume he passed on some time ago since that was 1973 or 74 (may around 43 years ago....which would likely make him well over 100 now), and I do not know what happened there after him. I did bring one thing back from my visit there, a RK with swords marked L/58, which I have posted on the forum, and it is not for sale............when I look at it, I remember my visit with Herr Umlauf.

Ron

[markus]

If you had ever been to the "trophy shop" called Rudolph Souval K.G. at Siebensterngasse, Wien, and actually got to go up to the "special room" and met Herr Umlauf (the old gray haired gentleman who was "Rudolph Souval") (he actually wasn't but he was the man who ran it and called all the shots") you might not be so dismissive of "Souval". He never tried to pass off the products are "real". Instead that was done by collectors and mostly dealers, who were trying to fleece other gullible less experienced collectors. He told everyone they were replicas, and not exact ones at that.......he could have made (and did sometimes) much better ones, but the cost would have been much higher. He was very helpful and spent a long time talking with me and showing me around. I don't guess you would believe that one of the reasons he made things was to provide to the prior servicemen a cheap means of having a "representative" for the medal or badge that was lost to them during the war......one that looked somewhat like the one from the time. I was never back there after the mid-70s, and never even corresponded with him, so I know nothing about the place or him after that. However, since he was an older man when I was there, I assume he passed on some time ago since that was 1973 or 74 (may around 43 years ago....which would likely make him well over 100 now), and I do not know what happened there after him. I did bring one thing back from my visit there, a RK with swords marked L/58, which I have posted on the forum, and it is not for sale............when I look at it, I remember my visit with Herr Umlauf.

Ron

Thanks for sharing Ron!

Markus