Good evening, gentlemen! Would be happy to hear from you regarding the authenticity of this Knights Cross suspension ring, I was offered today by a fellow collector. Thanks in advance!
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IMO an original loop ! TomComment
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Looks OK to me, but one has to have in mind, that it´s not very difficult for a handy person, to make one.Comment
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Originally posted by Ludwig View Post
I agree. And all this talk about cut ends as opposed to round ends is nothing but a bunch of hog wash.
Very easy to make either.
KeconComment
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sure and ok I guess eitherOriginally posted by Kecon View PostI agree. And all this talk about cut ends as opposed to round ends is nothing but a bunch of hog wash. Very easy to make either.
KeconComment
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That is not 100% true!Originally posted by Kecon View PostI agree. And all this talk about cut ends as opposed to round ends is nothing but a bunch of hog wash. Very easy to make either.
Kecon
There are loops, that are unique for certain producers.
Juncker being the most known.
That, however, does not mean, that Juncker loops always were of a certain design.Comment
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There are for sure loops which can be assigned to a specific maker, especially when they are marked like "L/12", "65", or otherwise. Beyond that one can look at the style the ends are made, which is - of course - something that every apprentice in a work shop can do after two weeks into the job. My opinion is that the determination beyond the clearly identifiable features is a kind of "black magic", especially when done based alone on photos.
The diameter of the wire, the lenght, and width are factors that seem to be consistent (within an allowable tolerance) for original loops and are certainly not incorporated into any opinion voiced on a forum.
The biggest problem, however, is that one does not know whether a loop was changed or added. To determine a maker or even a time frame within a maker can only be based on a relatively small sample, which might be poisoned by false data.
That is why one should be very, very careful to make a statement beyond the very well known and established loops, especially when lacking diimensional data. The reason being that it can only be guesswork based on a very limited (and also corrupted) sample of data.
Add to all this that the very shaky assumption that any company at any given time and over a certain periods and for a specific type had always the same style of loop.
This does not mean that one cannot or should not make an educated guess (and more it can't be IMHO) but one should also explain why and on what base that educated guess is made. Maybe that will advance the knowledge in this area.
Merry Christmas to all!
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