Maybauer's EK2 with strange signatur L/13

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My friend bought a cross and showed it to me, asking what I think of him.
I must admit that I am in a quandary

The core of the cross is a typical Maybauer. Frame looks terrible, as if she were cast, not whipped from the die.
Finally, unusual for crosses EK2 signature L/13. It looks more like a studded signature on the Maybauer's crosses EK1.
All this looks weird ...

I think it would be early Maybauer's cross with a trial signature L/13 (borrowed from crosses EK1), which was later replaced by typical signature, this known to us from crosses EK2. Therefore, this signatur is unknown to us...

There is one more possibility, that this is the so-called compilation, which mimic the Maybauer's cross EK2, and the only original thing about it is the core ...

Please, any opinions.

Regards
Jarek

[Roglebk]

Been a while since fiddled with TR EKIIs but it looks like the heavily flawed late war/late die Meybauer frame. See nothing wrong with mark either.

LDO Meybauer EKII's is really rare so a nice find!

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=l%2F13+ek2

[Roglebk]

Double marked 7 L/13 EKI with same flaws.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...92&postcount=2

[boch_62]

Been a while since fiddled with TR EKIIs but it looks like the heavily flawed late war/late die Meybauer frame. See nothing wrong with mark either.

LDO Meybauer EKII's is really rare so a nice find!

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=l%2F13+ek2

Yes, I agree, this is the same type of Meybauer's cross EK2 Thanks.

Jarek

[sanya13]

Hí Jarek
IMO this is a original piece and in my opinion this the mm a EK1 L/13 type kind of mark

the first picture and last picture a EK1 on pin a EK2 mm L/13

[boch_62]

Hí Jarek
IMO this is a original piece and in my opinion this the mm a EK1 L/13 type kind of mark

the first picture and last picture a EK1 on pin a EK2 mm L/13

I fully agree

Jarek

[Douglas 5]

It does have the EK1 style LDO marking on this early frame EK2 - not late .

The narrow beading frame is the early frame and the wide beading frame used later .
This EK2 frame had broken open and one can see spots on the side some one trying to seal it again .

A maker that some how got away with using some very poor quality crosses . Not only as LDO pieces - as this one - but also as PKZ award piece show below .

Douglas

[Roglebk]

The narrow beading frame is the early frame and the wide beading frame used later

Douglas

Is that based on recipients dates?

[sanya13]

Really ,this is a very interesting piece
Early frame with late core and straight L/13 mm
but I think already saw lot of such pieces other from maker too
when one little strange the piece

Jarek ,please put up more pictures the cross from side
if possible

[Douglas 5]

Roglebk -
Maybauer was with the first group in 39 involved with the initial EK cross design and certainly would have made their own dies(narrow bead frame) before using any frames later on from maker 23 .
Maybauers EK die showing deteriation problems early on seams to have chosen to obtain frames else where instead of producing new replacement dies .

Douglas