characteristics of Schneider's (=106) crosses EK2-1939

[boch_62]

my 4 Schneider's (=106) crosses EK2

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two types of obvers = date 1939

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compare the date of the obverse = 1939

[boch_62]

I decided to look at the crosses of Bruder Schneider (=106).
For a long time there was a perception that these are only signed Schneider’s crosses EK2-1939. Now we know that there are both versions of the signed and not signed (very rare) Schneider’s crosses EK2.
The first not signed the cross, among us in Poland, found Maciej ("Eric"), the second I found myself and then confirmed these findings Michał ("plaut" – R.I.P.)

I currently have 4 Schneider’s crosses – 1 signed and 3 not signed.

After a thorough analysis of Schneider’s crosses, we can conclude that those crosses have the same type of reverse (in terms of drawing date 1813) and two types of obverse (in terms of drawing date 1939).
1-st type of date of 1939 - with a small number "1" and a large number "3" - refer to as own core of Schneider.
2-nd type of date of 1939 - a typical standard date of the S&L - I define it as a foreign core S&L.


Regards
Jarek



- photos:
... the same date of the revers = 1813

[boch_62]

At present, in my opinion, Schneider crosses classification is as follows:

1 / not signed - the obverse of the core own
2 / not signed - the obverse of the core foreign S&L
3 / signed [106] - the obverse of the core own
4 / signed [106] - the obverse of the core foreign S&L

according to the analysis presented below.

Regards
Jarek

[Douglas 5]

Looks good

Douglas

[streptile]

Very nice study Jarek. Never knew about the two cores.

Are all the frames identical?

[sanya13]

Hí Jarek
nice work and good eyes ,congrat
can you put up here separate too pictures ?

[boch_62]

Looks good

Douglas

Thanks

[boch_62]

Very nice study Jarek. Never knew about the two cores.

Are all the frames identical?

IMO all frames are identical !

[boch_62]

Hí Jarek
nice work and good eyes ,congrat
can you put up here separate too pictures ?

separate pictures of each of the cross? or separate photos of the two types?

[Douglas 5]

The set up you did Jarek is good .
Looking at the reverse date I do see 2 different reverse cores .
Looking at the frames I possibly see two frames also .I cannot see enough to determine 2 different makers or only one S&L maker and 2 different production dies .
I could be wrong ... would need you to confirm please .

Douglas

[boch_62]

Hi Douglas,

Minimal differences concerning the date 1813 are, but they are IMO only the result of wear and tear working die - this is clearly the same mother die.
The same applies to frames of these crosses.

Jarek

[sanya13]

Hí Jarek
It is also interesting that one half of the crosses are thicker and thinner

[boch_62]

Hí Jarek
It is also interesting that one half of the crosses are thicker and thinner

Sorry Sanya, I must admit that so deeply into these crosses I did not go into.
Such differences can be found in many crosses, they did (machining crosses) only people.
I'm interested in really important and significant differences in the crosses ...

Jarek