Value/Manufacturer of this 1939 EK1?

[jbarne06]

Hello all! New here, so bear with my unfamiliarity with the terminology.

Family asked me to help him sell what looks to be a 1939 Iron Cross First Class. Doesn't appear to be a manufacturer's mark. Any idea which it might be?

Thanks

[sanya13]

Hí this is an early unmarked Wilhelm Deumer piece, the value IMO 150€

[Hank C.]

Hí this is an early unmarked Wilhelm Deumer piece, the value IMO 150€

I think Sanya's correct on both. (I know he is on the maker, and the price sounds decent )

best
Hank

[Stu W]

This rule is not always enforced but FYI as you mentioned above that you plan to help out a friend ...

From Estand Guidelines ...

h) Selling items on behalf of someone else is strictly prohibited and will result in your permanent expulsion from the website in your first offence.

Regards,
Stu

[jbarne06]

Appreciate the heads up

Wow, thank you so much for pointing this out. It would be unfortunate to be expelled from this community just after signing up.

This rule is not always enforced but FYI as you mentioned above that you plan to help out a friend ...

From Estand Guidelines ...

h) Selling items on behalf of someone else is strictly prohibited and will result in your permanent expulsion from the website in your first offence.

Regards,
Stu

[jbarne06]

Hí this is an early unmarked Wilhelm Deumer piece, the value IMO 150€

Thank you for the feedback! Out of curiosity, can you tell the manufacturer based on the fastener? Or is there some other way to distinguish without the mark?

[jbarne06]

Thanks Hank! Appreciate the feedback

[Stu W]

Thank you for the feedback! Out of curiosity, can you tell the manufacturer based on the fastener? Or is there some other way to distinguish without the mark?

There are several ways in which unmarked EK can be associated to specific maker(s).

Some, like the Souval frame crosses, are easily distinguished through several well known characteristics. Others require more in depth evaluation of such factors as the hardware on the reverse side (specific to an EKI) as well as beading placement and size, frame shape and width as well as core type, composition and other such variations.

It's not rocket science but does require good eyesight and an interested mind if you really want to make a study of the EK and it's numerous forms.

Regards,
Stu