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    The rounded early Godet core

    A nice early Godet EK1 was show here the other day . http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=800566
    At this point it would be of interest to show in a separate thread a less known core variant used by Godet that for various reasons never made it anywhere .
    A 'rounded' core feature variant as seen in the sample below that I have . Gloss paint as well - the light reflects differently . 5tefans core having all flat surfaces which the light effect brings out nicely .
    On the other hand a round surface only shows the high spots that give the core a less flattering appearance .
    6 pictures to follow :

    Douglas
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    The top cross shows the flat surfaces nicely as the other is less pronounced . Only closer look shows the surface difference .... on the emblem and even the date , which is a sharp thin edge .

    Douglas
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      #3
      The flat type is easy to see . The other identifiable best by a side view picture .... where one can see the 'round' surface .

      Douglas
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        #4
        A side by side set up of the dates show the 2 types well . The round surface core type is far less common than the flat type and only seen on very early crosses .
        In addition with this 2 core sizes were used . Interesting to note that only the large core is found with core variant 1 and 2 .
        The regular is sofar only been seen in the regular 'flat surface ' form . The 'weak' appearance of the rounded core may have been it's downfall .

        Douglas
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          #5
          Douglas, good job. I agree about the existence of two cores in the early crosses Godet's EK2-1939

          I even heard once that one core was made by Godet, the second by Zimmermann

          Regards
          Jarek

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            #6
            I think different. In my opinion there is just a core type, differences we see in these two crosses just because the paint. The cores that have rounded numbers and swaz are flat where paint is lost. By the way the rounded ones are very cool to my eyes, maybe nicer.

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              #7
              I agree with Fabri. I see differences only in paint, die-wear and lighting.

              Very nice crosses shown
              Last edited by streptile; 05-07-2015, 08:46 AM.
              Best regards,
              Streptile

              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                #8
                this frame Godet and Zimmermann both used, you can't say it was Godet core i think.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by streptile View Post
                  I agree with Fabri. I see differences only in paint, die-wear and lighting.

                  Very nice crosses shown
                  You could say this with most of the 50 variants that seem to spring up for every maker that people "imagine".

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by streptile View Post
                    I agree with Fabri. I see differences only in paint, die-wear and lighting.

                    Very nice crosses shown
                    ...that's what I did ... but nobody usually does not pay any attention ... until Douglas is clearly demonstrated ...

                    Jarek

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                      You could say this with most of the 50 variants that seem to spring up for every maker that people "imagine".
                      I basically agree with you. There are a lot more "variants" in the collective imagination than exist in real life.

                      But that's not to say that some real variants don't exist.
                      Best regards,
                      Streptile

                      Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                        #12
                        Hold on there guys .... ! A round surface in a hardened die does not over time wear down to precise flat surface with sharp edges .
                        Nor is the paint put on so thick to totally distort all of the original shape and chips off evenly to reveal a flat black painted surface !
                        There are difference in these 2 dies : certainly made by the same person ... like the angle of the 'up stroke' of the 1 and the tip of the 3 -- mine points down and inward as the one Woolgar curves out and up
                        .... and the 1 on mine sits a bit lower than on his .
                        Nothing here is being 'imagined" !!

                        Douglas
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