2 EK II's more for ID

[peterm]

Hi guys!

May I ask again for You help with identification of EK's?

1st one could be a Deumer???

Many thanks in advance and kind regards, Peter

[peterm]

2nd:

[peterm]

[sanya13]

Hí Peter
The first cross is really a Deumer
the second IMO a Walter & Henleim ,but not really see the details ,because a little vague the pictures when I tried enlarge

[peterm]

Many thanks, Sanya!

Kind regards, Peter

[boch_62]

IMO the first Deumer but the second Rettenmaier (16) -please look at the photo. But I could be wrong...

Regards
Jarek

[peterm]

Seems You are right, Jarek! Thanks!

Kind regards, Peter

[sanya13]

Hí IMO Not Rettenmaier
here is a compare picture

[peterm]

Thanks again, Sanya. Most of the time I have only the display of my mobile phone for looking and therefore it's often very hard to detect details like these!
Kind regards, Peter

[boch_62]

Hi Sanya,
Maybe I'm wrong, but I do not think

Firstly - please see the date 1813 in the present you the "W&H cross" and Peter's cross - IMO they are not identical (look at the number 8)...
Second - not all crosses EK2 Rettenmaier's have a typical "flaw" - a feature that is helpful in diagnosis, but not necessary for diagnosis...
Thirdly - in a typical date of 1813 in W&H crosses the digits are "isolated" (please look photos), but in the crosses Rettenmaier's rather "tangential" to each other...

But of course it's just IMO

Jarek