2 EK II for ID - Please help!

[peterm]

Hi guys!

Need Your help with these two EK's. Does anyone know the maker and willing to tell them to me?

Kind regards, Peter

[J0hnny]

both are original.
first is an unmarked Meybauer and second ist an unmarked Klein & Quenzer.

[peterm]

Thanks for the help, JOhnny! Originality was clear to me, but I'm really not good in detecting the makers.

Kind regards, Peter

[boch_62]

I agree with J0hnny

Regards
Jarek

[sanya13]

Hí I agree with Jan and Jarek
and both type is and both type is inner core is 1 type

[peterm]

Many thanks, guys!

Kind regards, Peter