This packets Carl Forester

[meriksson]

Dont you think there som strange about all that are showing up. It must more than 1000 off them. This one do have a extra stamp on it.
Mikael

[MH184]

Do you have any further pic's of this one, I've not seen the likes before.

I don't like the LDO warrenty stamp on the back, I've never encountered this with a larger packet or one with the full makers name on it ? Shouldn't it have the LDO number on it.

By this stamp on the back, it suggests it's a retail piece....it could be genuine and we've not seen the likes before...an undiscovered batch ! But I doubt it.

Strange one, I'd exercise caution on it.

Kr

Marcus

[Greg Kubasek]

I havent seen on with the LDO stamp on it. There do seem to be a lot of these CF&graf packets out there but I I don't doubt their authenticity. I took one into my collection and it looks/feels/smells/passed black light light the other period packet I have.

Some on must have came along a crate of these unissued and have been spreading them around.

[hagwalther]

I'm not happy with these packets at all.

No scientific reasoning and I have not even handled them but something to me says .

I believe that Carl Forester is not a known maker of the Iron Cross. For these packets to turn with this name on from various sources all at the same time is just pushing creditability a bit far.

Could all of the sellers who have these for sale please state the date when they previously obtained them. I suspect that they only obtained them in the last few months or so.

Regards ...

[Greg Kubasek]

Would Carl Forester have to be the manufacturer of the cross though? They could be a third party source for the packets. Just a thought.

Detlev has some of these packets on his site not to give him carte blanche but I suspect he would have given them some thought and inspection before placing them on his site.

I'm not happy with these packets at all.

No scientific reasoning and I have not even handled them but something to me says .

I believe that Carl Forester is not a known maker of the Iron Cross. For these packets to turn with this name on from various sources all at the same time is just pushing creditability a bit far.

Could all of the sellers who have these for sale please state the date when they previously obtained them. I suspect that they only obtained them in the last few months or so.

Regards ...

[hagwalther]

Would Carl Forester have to be the manufacturer of the cross though? They could be a third party source for the packets. Just a thought.

Detlev has some of these packets on his site not to give him carte blanche but I suspect he would have given them some thought and inspection before placing them on his site.

Hi Greg,

Very good point but as I know things the name on the packet is related to the award maker not the packet maker.

Yes, Herr Niemann does have some of these on his site. I first noticed them a few months ago and got really excited as I was looking hard for a nice EKII packet at the time after a very long search.

However, as I could find no reference to Carl Forester being a maker of Iron Crosses I decided not to purchase.

I think one answer to this issue is when the packets first started becoming available for sale.

My experience in looking out for a nice EKII packet for a couple of years is that they have just appeared in the last few months and as such, I'm a bit cynical...

Regards ...

[Jim Baker]

HMMMmmmm......

I'll go with Hagwalther on this one. At least I'm going to be patient. I think I'd really rather have a packet with an attributed cross anyway.

They may be good. If they are, then they'll be around for a while.

[Peter Wiking]

The font used on that large stamp looks modern and produced on a computer.
I would stay away.

Cheers.
Peter

[meriksson]

Here you go bid ur brains out http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:X:ON:US:2
I did see Detlev also sold them and som other dealers also. And there is some at diff auctions places. Well i have never seen a EK or PKZ nr for that maker and i dont think he hade a LDO nr either. Sorry to say but i just got one off those packets for 6 Euro. Well i do think it can light a fire in my stowe.

Mikael

[mrg]

Hi All, have to agree with Greg, i have one of these packets myself ( without the stamp) and do not doubt the authencity,light test, texture, feel, etc. Could they have been a trial run? a short fall in manufacturing ( even today this sort of thing happens). As already stated time will tell. All the best.

[hagwalther]

Hi All, have to agree with Greg, i have one of these packets myself ...

Hi mrg,

Is it a recent purchase?

Can you remember where you got it from?

Regards ...

[Peter Wiking]

In any case. The big stamp on the packet above is not wartime. Its done postwar.

Cheers.
Peter

[hagwalther]

In any case. The big stamp on the packet above is not wartime. Its done postwar.

Cheers.
Peter

It's certainly different from the printing in the left corner...

Regards ...

[schönbeck]

all I know when I got my packets from this maker is that the antiquedealer who sold them to me said that these were a factory find, he had about 80 packets, half of them where soiled ánd damaged. So IMO these are good packets, notice that he was a antique dealer and not a mili dealer, I got mine for free when I traded art with him. I that he comes from the where these are supposed to have been manufactured.

[hagwalther]

all I know when I got my packets from this maker is that the antiquedealer who sold them to me said that these were a factory find, he had about 80 packets, half of them where soiled ánd damaged. So IMO these are good packets, notice that he was a antique dealer and not a mili dealer, I got mine for free when I traded art with him. I that he comes from the where these are supposed to have been manufactured.

Hi Schonbeck,

How long ago was this and did you personally see the soiled/damaged ones?

Regards ...