S&L DKiG

[Nordmark]

Hi guys,



this is a good S&L DKiG, if I´m not mistaken? Yes I know these are a bit controversial.



Regards,



Daniel

[Rich G]

Search for S&L dkig in this forum and you will see there are differences.

[Nordmark]

Search for S&L dkig in this forum and you will see there are differences.

I did see them, but still I´m pretty sure it is a good S&L.

[Darrell]

I guess it comes down to what you define as good.

[George L]

Daniel, without the '4' on the pin, and the solid rivets on yours that don't match others, it doesn't look good.

[Nordmark]

Look, we can discuss this over and over again. I am not saying the piece is a wartime made DKiG. I know these are controversial.


The question is, is this an S&L made German Cross in Gold, in my opinion: yes.


Regards,


Daniel

[Thomas Durante]

Daniel, without the '4' on the pin, and the solid rivets on yours that don't match others, it doesn't look good.

Why would solid rivets mean not good? S&L is known to have used solid rivets on their Luftwaffe Paratrooper badges that are considered wartime. Conversely, hollow rivets were consistently used by S&L on most if not all their 1957er badges, so personally I would think solid rivets are a better sign of wartime production by S&L and hollow rivets more in line with their postwar production.

To answer Daniel's question, I personally feel this is an S&L-made cross judging by the reverse hardware setup, rivets and finish.

Whether it is wartime made or purely postwar I don't think anyone can say for sure since no one knows what a definite, unquestionable wartime-made S&L DK looks like.

Tom

[George L]

Tom, for the wide pin S&L DKIG's I haven't seen any others before with solid rivets, whether it be with swaz or in 57 form. Looking at the rivets, particularly the right one, I wonder if this one has been reworked?

Daniel, yes, the rest of the piece matches S&L.

Why would solid rivets mean not good? S&L is known to have used solid rivets on their Luftwaffe Paratrooper badges that are considered wartime. Conversely, hollow rivets were consistently used by S&L on most if not all their 1957er badges, so personally I would think solid rivets are a better sign of wartime production by S&L and hollow rivets more in line with their postwar production.

To answer Daniel's question, I personally feel this is an S&L-made cross judging by the reverse hardware setup, rivets and finish.

Whether it is wartime made or purely postwar I don't think anyone can say for sure since no one knows what a definite, unquestionable wartime-made S&L DK looks like.

Tom

[Nordmark]

Hi guys,


Dietrich also told me the rivets are most likely reworked/redone. I looked a little closer and you can clearly see scratches around each rivet. Maybe they have been replaced to solid ones.


Regards,


Daniel

[Rich G]

Hi guys,


Dietrich also told me the rivets are most likely reworked/redone. I looked a little closer and you can clearly see scratches around each rivet. Maybe they have been replaced to solid ones.


Regards,


Daniel

is this a 1957 piece that has been nazified?

[Nordmark]

is this a 1957 piece that has been nazified?

Hopefully with a non-controversial swaz...