Hi Chaps, what do you think of this clasp? Looks different to a Meybauer with the lack of veins to the feathers and different pin assembly, to me it looks more like the clasp which has been described as "the unknown maker" ?
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IMO a copy of the "unknown maker" with a bogus mark.
It doesn't look like an L/13 at all....Comment
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Exactly, Ben. And, wrong hardware.Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
Take a look at the outline of this original compared with the copy...
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Thanks Ben,
any other opinions? I was kind of hoping this one was OK , and that I had found out who "the unknown maker" was.Comment
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That would have been nice , but an L/13 cladp looks completely different
Don't have a pic at hand, but it shouldn't be too hard to find some on wafComment
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L/13
My L/13Comment
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cheers Ben,
I can't find an L/13 anywhere on the forum apart from the one on the collectors tools on the WAF home page
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...1class_l13.htm
Robert is that the reverse of "the unknown maker"?Comment
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Jim just posted his clasp
I thought there were more pics on these on waf
You could also search for L/17 or L/56, they are all from the same maker...Comment
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Thanks Ben, and thanks Jim for posting your L/13 that's what I thought one should look like.
Sorry Robert I was just rushing out the door when I asked that question, I see now it is the reverse of the unknown maker. It is quite similar , is it not possible Meybauer produced two different versions of the clasp?Comment
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I just found an original "unknown maker" belonging to George Stimson which has different hardware to the one posted by Robert, and very similar to the one I posted. So does this not prove, it is in fact not the wrong hardware?Comment
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No, but compare the backside and you will see the differences in the claw shape. The one you started this thread with is a fake. JimComment
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Cheers Jim, the clasp does not belong to me, it's part of a collection I'm buying, so was just wanting to be 100% sure, before I tell the owner the bad news. I notice there is no stippling around the swastika on the one I posted too.
thanks again for all your help guys
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The hardware on George's example is non-typical, of course. The hardware on the copy/fake is different than that of Goerge's as you can see.
Here is the obverse of the original I posted earlier in this thread, for detail...
The copy/fake is NOT from the same die as the original here.
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Thanks Robert,
yes I can see it is not the same die , especially the two extra lines on the legs, is it not possible it is just a variation?
When I hold the badge in my hand it does look similar to yours especially the light stippling around the swastika and the head is the same , my badge has been scanned and the detail to the head etc looks worse than in real life.
Would it be worth while me taking a photo of the badge, which will hopefully show the details are much crisper?Comment
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