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    Souval EK1 for opinions please

    I have this Souval EK1. It has a fat swastika that I find appealing. Is there any way to say if this is a wartime or post-war cross? Are there any clues in the frame or core that would indicate when this was made, is there any way to know for sure? Thanks in advance for any help with this cross.
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      I got this from an old collection with no other provenance. I might sell it but want to know just what I have, if possible.
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        this is a wartime Souval

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          In the early eighties I visited Vienna on a business trip and thought to visit Rudolf Souval who was still in business. My wife and I went to his store where the place was awash in various forms of auto and club medallions. There was another couple in the store shopping. I asked a sales clerk about WW2 Regalia, which she adamantly denied. After the other shoppers left, she took us into their backroom and opened a tall steel cabinet which was loaded with freshly minted Nazi material. I asked if I could speak to someone in charge and she directed me to their factory foreman who spoke English and knew the history. The factory was hidden away behind a bakery in a suburb. The current foreman was the son of the foreman during the war years. As the war was closing and the Russians were coming, the foreman hid all the dies in the foundation of a bombed out building. When the Americans arrived they recalled the dies and returned to business. They sold more material then they had ever sold to the German forces. This continued for many years. Makes you wonder.

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            In my opinion that is a "full" Souval in other words a Souval core in a Souval frame. The fat swas and Dipping 3 are indicators of the Souval core. The die flaw and corners etc. are indicators of a Souval frame. I believe this type is pre May 45.

            Regards,
            Stu

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              Originally posted by Devil Dog View Post
              In the early eighties I visited Vienna on a business trip and thought to visit Rudolf Souval who was still in business. My wife and I went to his store where the place was awash in various forms of auto and club medallions. There was another couple in the store shopping. I asked a sales clerk about WW2 Regalia, which she adamantly denied. After the other shoppers left, she took us into their backroom and opened a tall steel cabinet which was loaded with freshly minted Nazi material. I asked if I could speak to someone in charge and she directed me to their factory foreman who spoke English and knew the history. The factory was hidden away behind a bakery in a suburb. The current foreman was the son of the foreman during the war years. As the war was closing and the Russians were coming, the foreman hid all the dies in the foundation of a bombed out building. When the Americans arrived they recalled the dies and returned to business. They sold more material then they had ever sold to the German forces. This continued for many years. Makes you wonder.
              Interesting, thanks for the story. It's well known that Souval manufactured after the war but this is a nice, vivid telling of the situation.

              I myself have no way of knowing which of this specific type of EK was made during the war (if any), and which made after. All I do know for sure is that every component of this cross (frame, core, hinge, catch, pin) was indeed used after the war by Souval to make Iron Crosses.
              Best regards,
              Streptile

              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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