2X EK2 for opinions please

[CWP]

I picked these up over the weekend. I believe they are original but wanted to post here for confirmation because I am no expert on these. I'm also curious if it is possible to determine the maker based on these photos. Neither cross has any mark on the ring.

Cross #1:

[CWP]

More of Cross #1

[CWP]

Cross #2:

[CWP]

More of Cross #2. Thanks for any feedback on these.

[Hank C.]

Both very nice. I'm thinking #1 is a Wachtler & Lange, not sure on #2.

best
Hank

[CWP]

Thank you for your help.

[boch_62]

IMO first it's W&L and second looks like a Grossmann (in any case frame).

Regards
Jarek