Hermann Wernstein Jena-Lobstedt Packet & EK2 - Asistance Needed

[John F.]

Hello:

Just picked this piece up recently and was hoping to get some assistance with this packet and cross. First, I have only seen the larger size packets so when I saw this size of packet - 6.3 x 9.5 cm (2.5”x 3.75”) I was curious to know if this size was rare?

The packet is marked Hermann Wernstein Jena-Lobstedt but there is no maker mark (#5) on the cross. Was this a common practice by manufactures or was this cross just married up with this packet?

I conducted a search for pics of a Hermann Wernstein Jena-Lobstedt EK2 with no results. Does anyone have a HW they could share with me?

Thanks,
John

[John F.]

Backside

[MH184]

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[John F.]

Hi Marcus:

Thanks for the reply! Your knowledge of packets, boxes and cases never cease to amaze me.

Hey, what ever happen to your quest for a packet & box forum? I notice that a Model Section has been added so maybe a packet forum is in the que .

Best,
John

[Jim Baker]

Hey John,

Nice. Never seen one of these and the condition is also excellent.

Have you compared the cross to a 100? Hard to tell from the photo, but it kinda looks like one to me.

[bwanek1]

I have a "5" marked Hermann Wernstein. Though I am far from an expert on EK manufacturers, I believe this to be one of the rarer EK2's. I welcome the opinions of those with more expertise than mine.

Brad

[meriksson]

Yeep a nice packet, first i seen from that maker About the EK i think Panzer is right look at a 100 for compare. It happens often the EK dont belong to the packet.
Mikael

[Ludwig]

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I´m with Panzerman and Mikael.

[bwanek1]

What are your thoughts regarding the second cross which I posted. Unlike the above unmarked cross, which you liken to a "100," this one is actually marked as a "5." That is the MM for HW and it is the only EK2 with this MM I have seen. Does anyone else have one?

Regards,
Brad

[John F.]

Hi Brad,

As you can see this is an old thread, but in the months since this posting your cross is still the only one that I have seen with this mark "5".

My cross has the characteristics attributed to Rudolf Wachhtler & Lange (100)

Best,
John

[Thomas Kirkpatrick]

What are your thoughts regarding the second cross which I posted. Unlike the above unmarked cross, which you liken to a "100," this one is actually marked as a "5." That is the MM for HW and it is the only EK2 with this MM I have seen. Does anyone else have one?

Regards,
Brad

Brad,
Yours is the first EK2 mm5 that I have seen!

[bwanek1]

Thanks for the feedback.

Anyone else out there have a "5" EK2 or any further thoughts regarding its rarity?

[Peter Wiking]

Thanks for the feedback.

Anyone else out there have a "5" EK2 or any further thoughts regarding its rarity?

bwanek1
I think it is a reproduction from Floch you have there.

Sorry.
Peter

[bwanek1]

bwanek1
I think it is a reproduction from Floch you have there.

Sorry.
Peter

Peter,

I certainly would welcome any detailed information you could offer regarding what leads you to that conclusion? Perhaps you could provide some photos for comparison.

Thanks,
Brad

[Peter Wiking]

Hello.
Compare with this one. A reproduction from Floch. It has the same frames as the EK1 from Floch.