EK 1 Spange

[George Stimson]

Opinions, please. (no mark)





George

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear George,

The "body" looks fine, I just do not know what to make of the pin which is obviously repaired, if not replaced. I wonder because I seem to have a spange of the same maker. At least it has the very same characteristics as yours, down to the eagle´s head, the date, really everything. BUT, my hinge/pin/catch is very different. I have seen needle systems like yours but not on that very design.

In my opinion, the worst case might be that it is a copy made with my spange as a role model or it is a good one of that maker with just a different needle system that might have been replaced/repaired.

However, here is my spange to compare

[Frank Heukemes]

Reverse. I am sure I am just an "opening act" to somebody more knowledgeable about these. But I hope seeing your exact design in a good badge is a bit soothing.

Cheers, Frank

[Gordon Williamson]

The needle pin type is usually attributed to Deumer and certainly there are plenty of these around with the L/11 mark. however the Deumer numeral 3 has a different configuration, but I can see no reason why other makers might not use the same needle pin fitting as Deumer. Certainly this type of hinge/pin is a valid wartime one.

Gordon

[Gordon Williamson]

Here is a Deumer, note the shape of the "3"







Here are reverse view of unmarked, L/11 and L/11 in box pieces by Deumer

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Gordon,

Those are Deumers alright but George´s and my spange, although from the same maker, are not Deumers (eagle´s head, eagle´s leg feathers being the most different parts). But your suggestion that also other makers might have used that pin combo lateron sounds fine, maybe it actually is a Deumer pin combo on George´s spange, because it looks repaired and possibly replaced.

Cheers, Frank H.

[Bryan Poon]

Hi

My Spange to EKI also have the same "3" style

http://www.geocities.com/bkobp/SpangeEKI.html

Cheers
BP

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Bryan,

It is important to recognize that the "3" in the date is NOT the same comparing George´s and my spange to the Deumers that Gordon showed us. Because George´s and my spange are no Deumers. Yours however seems to be a Deumer judging by your pic.

Cheers, Frank H.

[Bryan Poon]

Dear Frank

Yes, you are right. I compare with Gordon's Spange. My Spange is similar to his Spange. Mine is needle pin without maker's mark. I just bought it last month.

Cheers
BP