New Spanish cross in silver with swords by Steinhauer

[jacques]

Last acquisition , silver cross marked 835 , silver content used by Steinhauer & Luck.
jacques

[jacques]

Reverse

[Rich G]

Jacques


I have one just like it, also marked 835. I had no idea it was by S&L and had thought Meybauer or Deumer, based on the sword hilts.

Out of curiosity, what is the S&L connection?

Rich

[Philippe]

Steinhauer & Luck spanich cross..

Salut Jacques,

Very nice SC !!

I remember a SC in Silber I have in 1997 with 800 & L/16 stamped to the back, Steinhauer & Luck made silver cross marked 800 and probably 835, IMHO 835 is for Meybauer crosses.

As I know you, I'm quiet positive you have surely double checked all details to come to this conclusion (Steinhauer & Luck), is this 835 cross very different in details from the Meybauer ones? especialy the hinge?


Amicalement,


Philippe
www.majorplm.com

[mvm71]

Absolutely Beautiful!!! She's in great shape too.......one of my favorite awards.


Thanks for showing,
Mike

[jacques]

Meybauer crosses , whatever the mark ( 900 + shild, L/13, 900) have different design regarding the swords hilts, hinge . This one could look like the Deumer ; same well cut swords hilt, but it differs regarding other details like eagles, eagles swastica, central swasia and attach system.
For at least these reason I do believe it's not a Deumer or Meybauer.
Harald Geissler in an old IMM presented it as a Steinhauer too.

Thanks
jacques

[Rich G]

Jacques,

Could you post a Deumer, S&L and a Meybauer together? I don't have any marked for maker so I don't know which is which.

Thanks

Rich

[jacques]

from left to right:

Steinhauer 835
Deumer L/11 in a square
Meybauer 900 without coat of arms

[stogieman]

Nice & Unusual!

Hi Jaques, nice and unusual cross, one worn with pride for a long time. I do not think these can be shown often enough... if more people studied these real ones, the fakes would become so much more evident... Nice Cross mon Ami!

[Rich G]

Jacques et al,

I'd appreciate it if you could take at look at mine:
silver with swords http://rgordon4.tripod.com/decorations/id54.html

Bronze with swords http://rgordon4.tripod.com/decorations/id53.html

Would you say both are S&L? As you can see from the text I had thought both were Meybauer as I compared to one marked with the Meybauer crest and all seemed the same in details. The hilts and eagles looked the same but maybe I'm mistaken?

Rich

[jacques]

Rich

Your silver cross is beautiful, better condition than mine and in case ! I do think is not a Meybauer. As I said previouly some details are the same as the Deumer, but without furthermore proof, I stay in my former opinion.
Your bronze cross is fine too and it's a Meybauer . it has no mark ? never mind, all the details correspond to the Meybauer. if you part of it, let me know.
jacques

[Rich G]

Jacques

Thank you for that additional information. Yes, the bronze one is very nice and I think early but no maker marks. I will put you name beside it on my collection spreadsheet so that I know to contact you first when the time comes to sell.

Rich