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    General Beck's Ribbon Bar. Please help!

    Could you help me with general Ludwig Beck's ribbon bar, please? According to "Rangliste des Deutschen Reichsheeres" he had these awards:

    Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. und I. Klasse
    Ritterkreuz des Königlichen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
    Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse
    Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
    Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Albrechts-Orden mit Schwertern
    Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Friedrichs-Orden mit Schwertern
    Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg
    Friedrich-August-Kreuz II. und I. Klasse
    Hanseatenkreuz Bremen
    Lippisches Kreuz für Treue Dienste
    Eiserner Halbmond

    In 1934 Beck also got Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges (with swords or without them, I don't know) and probably some time after 1936 Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse. All this information is brought from Wikipedia. But when I look at the Beck's picture in 1938, I see three bands, which I can't identificate. Does someone know, what it could be?

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    (my reconstruction)

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    #2
    Have you tried to find other, perhaps clearer, photos of him? Might help.

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      #3
      No, all of them have unfortunately quite low quality. Besides, there are not so many pictures of Beck in general.
      I don't understand one more thing: if a man gets Iron Crosses I. and II., does he carry both the ribbons on a bar?

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        #4
        No, as on ribbon bar is only 2nd class, first class is always worn on uniform

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          #5
          The EK1 is always worn on the chest. The second class can be worn in different ways; parade mounted on great bar (ribbon+cross), only ribbon in a buttonhole, only ribbon on a bar. Miniatures are for civil occasions.

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            #6
            By the way, this is quite funny! Look at KC holders for example. They wore their ICs + the KC. Why? You couldn´t hold the KC without having the ICs. It would have been more logic if the higher grade replaced the lower.
            But now and then you see pictures of KC, that obviously reasoned the same way, as I just did.
            Johannes Mühlenkampf can often be seen wearing his KCwOLs + his golden wound badge only.

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              #7
              I wonder, why there is not a band of The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 on Beck's bar. Or I don't see it? And why had he 4 bands with swords, if according to Rangliste des Deutschen Reichsheeres he had only 3?

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