Juncker iron cross clasp second class

[Nordmark]

Hi guys,


I was asked to put this piece on the e-stand up for discussion. In my opinion a very rare and very early iron cross clasp. Unfortunately one prong is missing...


Regards,


Daniel

[Nordmark]

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[Giel VW]

Textbook Juncker all the way. Too bad about the missing prong.

Daniel, if you believe in the fact that unmarked pieces can not be attributed to a maker, why do you call this Juncker then without an L/12 stamp?

[Nordmark]

Hello Giel,


that´s funny, my mint example is clearly marked L/12...

[Thomas Durante]

that´s funny, my mint example is clearly marked L/12...

Daniel must be in the teeny tiny minority of Germans that believe it is impossible for two different makers to be using IDENTICAL dies to make these spanges. I agree 100% that this is an unmarked Juncker. If two makers were involved, we would see differences in the obverse design as I firmly believe that no two dies can be 100% identical, even if they come from the same master. Why Juncker chose to mark some, and leave others unmarked; I don't know.

Tom

[streptile]

I would love to see your marked example. I have seen only one other 1. Pattern with this mark (I think Ben owns it).

Please show us pics

[CMSgt]

L/12

Trevor

Here is my marked Juncker. Jim

[beuwulf]

Great bird...Jim...

[streptile]

Great Spange Jim. Why isn't it in my collection, I wonder?

[Thomas Durante]

Great Spange Jim. Why isn't it in my collection, I wonder?

AGREED, a real beauty Jim.

Tom

[Nordmark]

Daniel must be in the teeny tiny minority of Germans that believe it is impossible for two different makers to be using IDENTICAL dies to make these spanges.

I honestly never thought about this until now, I would be surprised if I stated this somewhere here on the forum.

[CMSgt]

spange

Great Spange Jim. Why isn't it in my collection, I wonder?

I got there first. Thanks for the comments. Jim