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    http://www.manions.com/bid/bid.aspx?...list=4771-6470

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    IRON CROSS 1939 2ND CLASS & ISSUE ENVELOPE, RING MARKED 333


    100% ORIGINAL WWII ERA!!! REFERENCE: JORG NIMMERGUT 2002. DEUTSCHLAND-KATALOG 2003/2004 ORDEN & EHRENZEICHEN 1800-1945. PAGE 512, ITEM # 3824. valued @ 55.00€. 44x44mm size, 18.2 grams, silver frame with black painted magnetic center. Original ribbon. Ring marked 333, includes original issue envelope. Condition: 8


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      #3
      Manions
      Kind regards,
      Giel


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          Regards
          Waffen-Mike

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            #6
            The dreaded 333 strikes again.........I cant belive these things are still doing the rounds.

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              #7
              What can i say...
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                #8
                Did anyone else notice the other phoney award on manions? i.e the ditinguished service award given to manions themselves! a piece of clear resin block engraved with a logo like a repro pour le merite

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                  100% ORIGINAL WW-2 ERA!!! REFERENCE:“Orden & Ehrenzeichen 1800-1945,” by J******246;rg Nimmergut, 2003/2004, ITEM #3822, VALUED @ 140.00€ OR $180.00. 44mm, die struck, magnetic core, PB, 90% original finish. Condition: 100% ORIGINAL WW-2 ERA!!! REFERENCE:“Orden & Ehrenzeichen 1800-1945,” by J******246;rg Nimmergut, 2003/2004, ITEM #3822, VALUED @ 140.00€ OR $180.00. 44mm, die struck, magnetic core, PB, 90% original finish. Condition: 10


                  Last edited by jcwater; 05-26-2005, 09:02 AM.

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                    jcwater.

                    That one is not a Floch. I think that one is original by 100 Rudolf Wachtler & Lange Mittweida.

                    Cheers.
                    Peter<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_609176", true); </SCRIPT>

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                      Peter,
                      I agree. The EK1 that jcwater shows certinaly looks to be a Wachtler & Lange.

                      Chet
                      Zinc stinks!

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                        #12
                        Yes, that is surely a W&L "100".

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                          #13
                          the EK1 valued 50.00€ ?why?

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                            #14
                            Jcwater,

                            Low Price does not mean Fake.

                            High Price does not mean Real.

                            Study your crosses before you buy

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