Knight Cross "L/15"

[jules61]

Hi Gents!

Is these RK one authentic "Otto Schickle L/15" Cross??
As You can see.....is marked over the ring "L/15"
And hook of suspension "800".

The RK have also one C.O.A. of D. Niemann dated "2006"!
But You know.....now are faked also the Expertise!! Ihihihih!!!!

Unfortunally I have only these image!

Thank You very much for Yours time and help!!

My Best!
Gian.

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[kraut72]

this not wartime made Schickle KC,simply bad fake

[Tom B]

IMO a Fake ! Tom

[hades2004]

Agree , fake . I have never seen this kind of L/15 RK .
Kind Regards
Xiwan

[mwl]

But clever made with a "steep" 3...
Regards,
Mats

[Tiger 1]

Gian,

Compare with this one. The differences will be obvious.

Tony

[Tony T-S]

A nice filler for say $200. I've never seen a genuine one with the mm on the suspension ring.

[tony james]

From these pictures i can`t see the left side die flaw ,the ribbon loop is not typical schickle but as we all know these were switched around. The L/15 stamp seems oversize but a side by side comparison with a known good one is needed and if the number 48.1 mm is the width of the cross it would seem undersize as 49mm is a typical schickle size but we know that size and weights vary and should not condem a piece but some time ago a schickle with a core type like this was discussed on the fourm. If i remember correctly Dietrich personally examined it and his opinion was pre 45. Maybe he can comment on this one.

[Dietrich Maerz]

... If i remember correctly Dietrich personally examined it and his opinion was pre 45. Maybe he can comment on this one.

I could have only inspected the cross during a show, either MAX or SOS. I always have my scanner with me and if I would have inspected it and thought it was good or interesting, I would have scans, weight, and dimensions in my files.

I don't and I don't recall that cross. I would have loved to have that on file with the Niemann expertise .... either way.

I also would see better pictures.

[tony james]

Hi Dietrich
I just did a search and the thread was "schickle RK with rare core version " . grueni1208 posted his cross that started the thread.the core pictures look very close to this cross.

[beufighter]

ive circled parts of the cross to illustrate why its a bad one and this is with one bad picture more would obviously help


heres a link to the other thread:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=348035&page=4

[Dietrich Maerz]

Hi Dietrich
I just did a search and the thread was "schickle RK with rare core version " . grueni1208 posted his cross that started the thread.the core pictures look very close to this cross.

But that cross from Grueni is not the same one that started this thread. I understodd that you meant I had the cross that started this thread in hands. I don't think I had.

Dietrich

[tony james]

Sorry for the confusion Dietrich .i should have typed a few more words to avoid a mix up in what i was trying to say. Without better close up pictures i would say this cross is a question mark.

[Ludwig]

Correctemondo! A fake cross!

[jules61]

Thank You very much to all Guys!!
Tomorrow I will try to post some better pics also for the back!

These can help!

Have all a nice day!
Gian.